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Hey could you show me an example or two of a pro-hamas rally that has happened on a college campus recently?

I've been going to pro-palestine rallies because they're experiencing a genocide funded and supplied by my tax money, so I kind of consider protesting against it a right and obligation of mine. Haven't seen much mention of hamas at them though but maybe I'm not at the right ones.

You could also stand to interrogate a little more the connection between poverty in "the hood" and the global struggle against colonialism. American black people and palestinians have a long history of mutual solidarity. Aren't you curious about why?




I don't think the OP meant that the rallies were explicitly to support Hamas vs Palestine, but more that there is a general sentiment that the attack on Oct 7th was justified.

Some context https://archive.ph/DzIup

Some more extreme examples https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/support-hamas-terror-anti...


> there is a general sentiment

Don't pretend to read minds. The general sentiment is what people say it is, no more and no less.


Another poster replied with the Hamas connection.

In my mind, framing anything as "pro-palestinian" too simplistic. I am a strong supporter of Israel and I am also very pro-palestinian in the sense that I hope for a solution that enables them to live in peace and prosperity.

The "nuance" is to peel back to the root causes of what's happening so things can be fixed. When people equate "responding to terrorism" with "genocide" (a stretch...) you're not talking about the issue in a way that can enable any sort of evolution.

Maybe that's a form of "luxury belief" that's being talked about here - you can throw around righteous terms w/o having to worry about solving the problem or being impacted by a lack of solution...


Yeah or you could dismiss a genocide as "responding to terrorism" for example, I guess. You might be on to something here.


> You could also stand to interrogate a little more the connection between poverty in "the hood" and the global struggle against colonialism. American black people and palestinians have a long history of mutual solidarity. Aren't you curious about why?

Honestly for me... no. My parents grew up in poverty in a British colony, and they're extremely well off and their children more so. It gave us a lot of advantages. If they grew up here in the United States as a colonized people, they would have had even more advantages, and if I'm being honest, my entire family looks at the black community with confusion as to why they don't take advantage of the fact they're born in America, which puts them lightyears ahead of my parent's upbringing and poverty.

My mom ended her career by a desire to give back and taught in inner city public schools. Honestly, that was enlightening and explained a lot of why kids aren't doing well. Although both my parents and those kids grew up / are growing up poor. My grandparents wouldn't have tolerated what my mom found in the schools. At the end of the day culture matters.


OK. I mean if you're not curious about it I'm not going to try to convince you? Generations of activists and scholars have found a relationship here but if you're certain they're wrong to that's your project. Not sure why you even wrote anything past the first sentence here.


> I mean if you're not curious about it I'm not going to try to convince you?

With that attitude it's no surprised both groups have become -- as they say -- marginalized.


Yours is an under-rated comment. When my belief is sound, I go and advocate for it articulately and logically, engaging with people where they are to bring them along. When my belief is weak, I malign them for not a-priori reaching the same conclusion w/o my effort.


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