On: Rails isn't for beginners

[toast76]

USING Rails is a breeze. Getting it INSTALLED is the nightmare.

One expects a learning curve starting any new language, but I prefer that to start AFTER I've got it installed.

[mattbriggs → toast76]

http://railsinstaller.org/ ?

in general, windows support in the ruby world is sort of a third class citizen, but I had thought rails installation was a solved problem

[toast76 → mattbriggs]

When i ditched .NET I went OSX :)

[dysoco → toast76]

sudo pacman -S ruby && sudo gem install rails

I installed it that way, wasn't difficult at all.

[Deinumite → dysoco]

Good ole arch linux. At least you have a shot at current packages.

As for Ubuntu, it's a sad state. Installing ruby-rvm and/or rubygems from the the repositories can break your whole system.