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This hypothetical form of life -- what would its form of death look like? Where could we observe these dead angels / natural laws?

If it can't die it's not alive




Why is it not alive? None of our current definitions of life, limited as they might be, require death as measurement.

And just because life on earth is fragile, it doesn’t mean all forms of life have to be.


> And just because life on earth is fragile, it doesn’t mean all forms of life have to be.

When it comes to life made out of molecules, there aren't that many viable options for "base components".

For example, carbon based lifeforms like stuff on Earth can harvest energy from food without spending too much energy while remaining stable enough to avoid falling apart.

Silicon has somewhat similar properties, but its compounds require stricter conditions to be useful for hypothetical life.

Some amount of fragility is actually a good thing. Not for an individual, but for life in general. Animals harvest "building blocks and fuel" for themselves from other life forms that should be "fragile" enough to eat. All the advancements of evolution are possible due to mistakes in DNA replication that should be fragile enough for mutations.


That's all true for life as we know it. But this conversation was about hypothetical life in forms that we haven't yet discovered, nor possibly even imagined.


> But this conversation was about hypothetical life in forms that we haven't yet discovered

That's why I mentioned silicon.


You edited out the important part of that quote. Swapping out carbon for silicon is hardly imaginative enough to be worth mentioning when we are talking about potential forms of life completely outside what we might expect.

We have examples in popular culture already that are neither fragile nor organic: sentient machines.

Im not saying that the universe is full of Transformers and Terminators. Just that searching for silicon based life isn’t all that different to search for carbon based life when you consider that life is just a sophisticated machine and you can literally build a machine out of anything.


If we create intelligent digital 'computers' that can replicate themselves can you explain why that is not life?


I don't know why you included "intelligent". Life doesn't require thinking.

> digital 'computers' that can replicate themselves

By this definition we are just a few RepRap 3d printer revisions away from creating life.

> can you explain why that is not life?

As far as I know, the answer depends on ability of such a computer to become a competent Starfleet officer.


> By this definition we are just a few RepRap 3d printer revisions away from creating life.

They included it because one of the scientific definitions of “life” and specifies the ability to reproduce.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

A RepRap wouldn’t satisfy every criteria though.


Death has to be a measurement. If it can live it can die.


You haven't answered my question as to why.




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