I read the scare quotes around free will is an illusion to be saying that these individuals obviously have the capacity to change their circumstances if they only had the personal mettle, or whatever. This response is more nuanced though and I can see what you're saying.
I can agree with a lot of that, and sorry about cutting out the comment from underneath you - didn't realise.
I think you're right that claims and sentiments like, for example, the poor stay poor but it's not their fault don't exist in a vacuum and will have some negative effects.
The question is whether they're more helpful on balance, or less damaging than an alternative tough love just pull yourself up already, everyone else did attitude.
I think speaking about the current reality as we understand it is probably the best option.
I don't personally agree with the correlation/causation comment in this context. Putting the research (eg. the heredity of university admission) aside, not-born-poor folk can be just as shitty and lazy and morally bankrupt as anyone else but hope, greed, health, education and opportunity are good counterweights to that.
I can agree with a lot of that, and sorry about cutting out the comment from underneath you - didn't realise.
I think you're right that claims and sentiments like, for example, the poor stay poor but it's not their fault don't exist in a vacuum and will have some negative effects.
The question is whether they're more helpful on balance, or less damaging than an alternative tough love just pull yourself up already, everyone else did attitude.
I think speaking about the current reality as we understand it is probably the best option.
I don't personally agree with the correlation/causation comment in this context. Putting the research (eg. the heredity of university admission) aside, not-born-poor folk can be just as shitty and lazy and morally bankrupt as anyone else but hope, greed, health, education and opportunity are good counterweights to that.