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Please help me understand this. You are in fact claiming that if somehow someone lost their Y chromosome that would make him a woman despite the lack of any physical or mental changes? I think you have a radically different view of sex compared to most people if so as it is fundamentally incompatible with our social structure.

The claim that most humans have 5 fingers or that most men have XY chromosomes is not controversial. However the claim that you must have 5 fingers to be a human is! This is what the XY sex-determination system is based on, they noticed that most men have XY chromosomes and that most women have XX chromosomes and declared intersex men and women who do not match this model to actually be of the other sex by making an inaccurate map from genes to sex (which is perceived socially and existed before said model).

I believe that the above 2 arguments together are enough to show that it is not an accurate nor a useful sex determination system from a logical perspective.

I think people nowadays avoid the term transsexual because it might be confused with a sexual orientation. I also feel like some people consider the term sex to be vulgar, which is why even these who consider gender=sex often prefer the term gender even when it does not refer to the grammatical gender. Finally the term transgender is often used by some in order in order to be inclusive to people who are not medically transitioning.

You are free to show this thread to your friends if you want. I am sure there are trans people in both camps of the argument.




I think I was very clear when I said: "XY sex-determination system is based on the fact that the chromosomes one has at birth cannot change naturally throughout their lifetime, so magical or hypothetical scenarios where chromosomes can be altered doesn't align with our current scientific understanding", if people manages to change their chromosomes I guess the sex-determination system would probably change but we don't live in that magical world so things are much easier (yeah!)

>However the claim that you must have 5 fingers to be a human is! This is what the XY sex-determination system is based on

No idea what you're talking about ahah, people with a congenital condition are still human and no one said otherwise.




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