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[hamidpalo]

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation."

The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

[jeltz → hamidpalo]

OTR is all about encryption, it is a plugin which encrypts the messages themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging

[eurleif → jeltz]

I think the GP was thinking of Google Talk's feature to disable logging, which is also called 'off the record'.

[burgerbrain → eurleif]

He was not: "using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin."

[buu700 → hamidpalo]

What are you on about? OTR is pretty robust encryption.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging

[hamidpalo → hamidpalo]

There seems to be some confusion about the XMPP definition of OTR as defined in XEP-0136 which does not mention encryption (http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html#otr) and the colloquial use of OTR which apparently means "encrypted IM."

AFAIK there is no defined standard or agreed-upon XMPP extension for the latter. I should have clarified this in the original comment.

[bryanl → hamidpalo]

http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ the OTR protocol mentioned in the parent does provide encryption.