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the beatles and john lennon ripped off a lot of people. the list is not exhaustive.

what are you talking about? Five Deez is credited. The song is even called Latitude! LOLLLL. where's the theft? also, I'm surprised that you couldn't find any actual wholesale theft (it's DEFINITELY there, ahem Aruarian Dance https://www.reddit.com/r/Nujabes/comments/3fagps/the_story_o...) because lo-fi as a genre IS ENTIRELY CONSTRUCTED AROUND SAMPLING OTHER PEOPLE, often uncredited, looping it, and making it sound like vinyl on a tube amp or some shit. What did you think lo-fi was? LOL. it's like vaporwave. not like electronic pop rock or rap. So your argument that theft is what prevents someone from having pioneered a genre built on theft is not just absurd, the exact opposite is true. Theft is what make lo-fi lo-fi.

What is your actual argument? That the songs stolen weren't obscure enough to count as authentic lo-fi stealery? Are you some kind of lo-fi hipster that only listens to tracks with the most obscure samples from the 17th century or something?

To Rococo Rot isn't lo-fi nor is that song. Björk isn't lo-fi either. It's electronic. You're not even in the same genre. So how in the fuck could they have pioneered the genre they've never been part of? Or are you off on some idiotic pedantic technicality that nujabes didn't pioneer the genre, the sounds themselves did. OOOOOHHHH. We're all so impressed.

You probably think it's really insightful to blather on about how pop art is derivative because it's remixing the label from a soup can. Ten thousand IQ.




The background music. The music in the background, not Five Deez (lol) bland rapping. The sample is from Clouds by Gigi Masin, and had already been stolen and reused (better) before Nujabes came along. Nothing to do with lo-fi, more to do with stealing (lazily, and derivatively in Nujabes case. Couldn't even steal as an act of originality).

https://youtu.be/tyXvSN0QiIc


Speaking of backing tracks, glad to hear you entirely backtrack on your statement about not pioneering lo-fi


It’s like you can’t even read or understand the basic logic of sentences. Nujabes pioneered nothing. Stick whatever label you like on his bland music if you need to.

This is lo-fi, from 1991 https://youtu.be/ZWCQQ1ZWi04


NOD aren't in the lo-fi genre LOLOLOLOL https://youtu.be/DCN2u7zpZzI?feature=shared&t=744

Def Leppard is the polar opposite of lo-fi but you think they're lo-fi artists because they have shitty demo tapes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2XiEq5eE4 holy shit. this means that everyone pioneered lo-fi. LOL, bro. get it together. this is embarrassing.


The only thing that is embarrassing is the depth of your stupidity.

By all means, strictly delimit a made-up genre (based upon the confusion of internet neckbeards) and fix it by definition to ensure you remain correct - musically and musicologically your lo-fi genre and the artists within are replicating music that is sonically and functionally identical to music made a decade or two earlier. And try telling Pete Rock, The Bomb Squad, JayDee, MF Doom, RZA, almost any actual pioneer producers: “Wait you guys are mistaken, Nujabes was the pioneer of lo-fi hip hop, even though he came out years after you guys.” Try even doing the same with DJ Krush even if you want to remain in Japan. And even worse, you’re defending the honour (for some strange reason) of a producer whose music and beats are beyond lame. Keep enjoying your crappy music.


Who did J Dilla and Pete Rock sample and loop? Who did any of them sample and loop? The fact that you can't answer means that you're in the wrong genre, bro. Where are their chopped vocals?

I would love to hear you tell Daniel Boone that he's not a pioneer because some skeleton turned up. LOL.




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