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e2ee for iCloud is opt in (ie disabled by default) so approximately 0% of iCloud users use it.

Until it's on by default for new iCloud accounts and previous non-e2ee iCloud accounts get automatically upgraded to use it, the fact that it is offered is basically irrelevant.

Additionally if you are using it to protect your iMessages, it's ineffective, as your iMessages are stored on Apple servers twice: once for each end of the conversation. Unless both you and the other end of your conversation have both explicitly opted in to e2ee for iCloud, a single party enabling the setting does nothing for the security of iMessage, given that approximately nobody uses the feature today.




If you’re that paranoid, maybe don’t send super sensitive information using a chat application.


This has nothing to do with "paranoid", or with me personally. I don't use iMessage at all.

I also didn't live in Nazi Germany under the SS and Gestapo but I can still recognize and identify that police surveillance over the private communications of all (or even a significant fraction of all) members of society silently and discreetly creates a world which sucks for everyone in it, as things like new political parties or new labor unions (or any other threat to the status quo) will be detected and defeated before they ever gain popular attention or critical mass.

Did we already forget OWS and the tea party? How about MLK?

Please stop using defined psychological disease terms to describe people who seek basic human rights to privacy from corporations and the state. It's disrespectful to both people who suffer from paranoid delusions as well as sane people who desire human rights.




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