Are you disputing that Covid itself was known to cause myocarditis at an even greater rate than any vaccine was said to?
Arguably, having a ton of unvaccinated kids going to school and swapping the virus back and forth constantly and then infecting their families could have been a big contributor to how long this pandemic lasted. If you’ve ever met kids, you know school is basically a series of viral infections constantly.
Not to mention the stress it caused to the schools and childcare and thus to the families because exposure notices were so constant, forcing kids home constantly.
> Arguably, having a ton of unvaccinated kids going to school and swapping the virus back and forth constantly and then infecting their families could have been a big contributor to how long this pandemic lasted.
Vaccinated kids did this too. "The pandemic," to the extent one ever really existed, was ended by Omicron being so infectious that even the "careful" ones were forced to face Covid and see that it wasn't really that bad, and that all their assiduous efforts to avoid infection were largely for nought anyway.
I got my first infection from my kids attending school during the Delta wave. We were fine (although I didn't just sit at home and do nothing which was what the treatment advice amounted to at the time). Much like school shooting drills, the stress that was caused by exposure notices, testing, and the like was all a problem of the overreaction in response to the underlying phenomenon, and not the phenomenon itself. Certainly none of it could have been reduced by a higher rate of vaccination, since the vaccines were thoroughly ineffective against transmission at that point.
> Are you disputing that Covid itself was known to cause myocarditis at an even greater rate than any vaccine was said to?
I do dispute this, yes, given that a huge Israeli population study found no increased risk of myocarditis in Covid-recovered subjects in 2020 pre vaccines. I also dispute that the comparison would matter at all even if it were true, because the risks of myocarditis from the shots and from the virus are cumulative, not mutually exclusive, since the shots do not prevent Covid.
There is not some tidy choice to be made between mutually exclusive outcomes of "myo risk from the shots" and "myo risk from the virus." In every case where someone has developed heart issues after both vaccination and infection (including in a friend of mine who had 3 shots of Moderna), their doctors will invariably attribute it to the virus, and usually won't even report it as a potential side effect of the vaccine, so they seem to have zero confidence at all in vaccination's ability to reduce myocarditis risk from COVID infections.
> Are you disputing that Covid itself was known to cause myocarditis at an even greater rate than any vaccine was said to?
I would dispute that in the context of young adolescents and children, as I do not think that is known at all. Global covid 19 myocarditis risk in the year after taking the vaccine is 0.02% and vaccine myocarditis risk for adolescents is 0.01%. If myocarditis risk is at all similar to other severe covid symptoms, then it is likely from these stats that there is higher myocarditis risk from the vaccine for young people than from the possibility of being infected with covid and getting myocarditis.
That said, not all myocarditis is created equal and my understanding is vaccine associated myocarditis is generally milder.
Arguably, having a ton of unvaccinated kids going to school and swapping the virus back and forth constantly and then infecting their families could have been a big contributor to how long this pandemic lasted. If you’ve ever met kids, you know school is basically a series of viral infections constantly.
Not to mention the stress it caused to the schools and childcare and thus to the families because exposure notices were so constant, forcing kids home constantly.