Also, I think it kind of sucks that all that UFO reverse engineering didn’t yield a high temperature superconductor before this… but I guess what can you expect when you sequester away all your materials, silo your research and in effect keep your neural network of nodes (as scientists) really small.
This open shit, as flawed and maybe annoying as it is to some people, I think it’s a much better model of science. It’d be great to see some UFO/UFO tech breakthroughs happen like this too.
Perhaps, but the reverse engineering efforts you mention may have already led to incredible breakthroughs over the past few decades. Lasers, integrated circuits, Kevlar, fiber optics, and more technologies were said to have been seeded among the research community based on recovered UAP components. This is based on Army Colonel Philip Corso’s account in his memoir, “The Day After Roswell”. [1]
I know that. I used to believe that too. I really wanted to believe all the SSP stuff (Corey Goode, David Wilcock, et al).
However, my view is now that all of the talk over advanced tech has actually been a propaganda/influence/information-warfare campaign to:
1) assert that gov/corp is in control when it's in fact not; pretend it's not at all challenged by superior species, not at all ignorant of 1000s-of-years-more-advanced-tech
2) cover up the ignorance, powerlessness and failure to make progress on RE crash materials, an embarrassing secret that seriously dents their mandate to rule
3) provide cover for the cover-up to continue in secret, trying to buy themselves "just a bit more time", "maybe the next crash is the one we'll finally crack it"
It's much easier to engineer a narrative (something the US is absolutely world-class fantastic at), than it is to engineer understanding and tech from advanced civilizations possibly millions of years advanced from us, while operating in oppressive secrecy.
This is not an attack on the US, they're just the most prominent. All countries have failed with this broken, deceptive, but understandably flawed and human strategy.
It's a controversial view because it flies in the face of decades of this influence campaign.
In short I believe that all "military insiders" coming forward to say they saw military successfully using/making UFO tech are liars part of this campaign. That includes, especially, Greer.^1
I think the current push is much more truthful--so far. It was said a couple times by Grusch and others that we may not have made progress. And suggested that the push is designed to get it out into the open where people can study it and make progress.
I don't think that noble and sensible push will win however. Folks inside the coverup will likely see this as just another "pressure release valve" we need to satisfy the public enough, let them work off some steam, then we can either: A) undermine it and discourage them from pursuing in future; or, B) we can let it all go away, and in the background scare lawmakers in the same way we've done for decades (show some evidence of something that frightens them, or is a national security threat, or personally intimidate them) and they'll do whatever we say.
One reason I have for believing this current push will lose is because the main bobbleheads in charge of getting it out: Knapp, Coulthart, Corbell and Zabel are changing their tune and now making noises in support of continued coverup. In ^0 and in a recent video by Pope:
- Nick Pope: folks aren't ready
- Zabel: fuck disclosure, just need confirmation
- Corbell: confirmation has already happened
- Ross & Knapp: secrets must be kept
I sure as hell hope not, but when you look at who we're up against: the secretkeepers have been doing this for nearly a century, and they've always won, and they believe they're right. To them this is probably a storm in a teacup, and it will take more than some grandstanding (good, but ultimately weak) politicians, and a bit of skeptical public interest, to blow the lid off.
I think if people want information they should try to contact ET themselves and figure it out for themselves. You can't count on the corporation to come through for you, and the government is captured by the corporation. That much is clear.
Treating gov/corp as a trusted intermediary/priest class who have access to "divine knowledge", and then desperately waiting for them like a "good dog" for treats, is just reinforcing the power dynamic of gov/corp control over citizen-subjects that itself is challenged by the awareness of ETs; and begging for such treats from such actors, when all they've done in the past is lied to and abused the public in this way, is a false hope and a flawed strategy.
I think the true way to fuck with the secrecy system is to cut out the middleman, rather than hoping a continuously-proving-itself-to-not-give-a-shit-about-the-public system is going to become benevolent and "evolve itself".
For insiders, it probably all makes perfect sense, and seems
completely necessary and ethical. They have been and, until the technology's developed, will remain in, a constant state of war-time clandestine secrecy, with spies and traitors to that being executed essentially, and sophisticated counterintelligence operations continuously ongoing.
The war is over the most and only significant asymmetric advantage ever discovered by humanity. Successful acquisition and deployability would mean instant world domination, or so it's assumed. Compromise of this goal is, understandably to insiders, inconceivable and impossible. They are convinced that "losing" will mean the end of the world.
If I've been able to convince you of this, even a fraction, imagine how easy it is for insiders to convince themselves of this everyday. And imagine people that sure, that convinced they're right, ever going against anything they know, and revealing it? Not going to happen. The more we push, the harder they'll hold on and resist, sure of their goal. Like a dog a big stick.
For outsiders, it makes no sense at all. Essentially, to regular people today, these folks are stuck in a WWII mindset. Talking to them with their obsessive preoccupations with secrecy and war, would be comical and impossible for regular people to understand. Maybe they're right. Or maybe we are. No one will ever know, as long as the wall between both sides remains in place.
As long as this cover-up exists, the only thing we'll get is leaks and deliberate counterintelligence. I think Grusch is the former, and perhaps, he was merely the recipient of the latter. Who knows.
The saddest part for me is witnessing the degradation of American democracy, where the government is held hostage by a select group while simultaneously blamed for the secrecy, forming a perfect smoke screen. In this war, our governments are merely puppets, used as a shield by these clandestine groups, and the people, consequently, are left powerless. This silent surrender to covert entities significantly diminishes the credibility of our rulers.
1: A difficulty is a lot of what they say is true, mixed in with the lies that we have made any progress on understanding or re-creating, alien UFO technology at all. When the reality is we have no progress understanding or re-creating it at all. So contrary to what all these people say, we have no anti gravity, no advance energy or propulsion, we have no advanced medicine or med beds. However, the truth about consciousness assisted technology and telepathic contact and inter/extra dimensionality, and the existence of illegal beyond-black unacknowledged special access programs, and so on is mixed in with his lies. That mix is classic disinfo I guess.
Regarding ET specifically, it could be a species from Earth that became intelligent before humans did, it does not need to be extraterestrial. The assumption that we have good knowledge of Earth is incorrect, especially the deep ocean.
Agree, it could. It would make sense if they lived in the ocean or underground, as the surface has many instabilities (weather, tectonics, solar radiation, impacts ~~ not to mention crazy upright apes).
Interdimensional aspect could be Earth from an alternate timeline, such as where the Cretaceous–Paleogene (K–Pg) extinction event did not occur, and reptilians not mammals evolved into an upright "humanoid" species that developed civilization millions of years ago. These interdimensional reptilian humanoids (from an Earth literally "overlaid" on our world) could be in a war with our timeline/dimension for some interdimensionally-scarce resource, and perhaps they are what religions call "demons" and perhaps their version of Earth is, to us as co-combatants in this interdimensional war, what is known, because of our ignorance and for want of better understanding, as "hell".
Perhaps, sometimes when someone sees an "alien" or a "UFO" or a "ghost" they are just lucking into a naturally occurring transient random portal between dimensions, and when those things suddenly "vanish" it just means that portal closed/the conditions that gave rise to it subsided.
"They" could also be refugee species, advanced civilizations that came to Earth millions to hundreds of millions of years ago (perhaps multiple races/waves over many millions of years) and temporarily resided here after some cataclysm or disaster beset their civilization, before moving on. Some stragglers may maintain outposts on Earth for whatever reason.
They could also be multiple different groups, or what is made to look like multiple different groups, by a single giant sentience, in order to confuse us, as it draws it plans against us, aiming to turns us all into puppet bodies for its individuated vectored-in experience, in a perversion-by-demiurge of the pattern of the "one infinite creator" having an individual human experience through all of us. It's conceivable that a sentence with enough power would want to emulate that, and be capable of slowly genetically engineering us toward tuning into its frequency, rather than that of our spiritual soul's, essentially making its domain a giant SimCity and all of us its grotesque avatars, running on automatic when not inhabited by its consciousness.
Or perhaps our entire universe, is actually a 30 light-year wide sphere, with the remaining galaxies beyond that projected from the "real world" onto its surface, created, specifically by a universal cosmic civilization that spans the entire future (to us) universe, in real time (200 billion years advanced from where we think we are), in order to re-create a significant period from history. What if we are the conscious inhabitants of a historical re-creation, a diorama, if you will. A kind of grotesque and cruel, Westworld type of universe, which, tho not a simulation, is artificial, and preserved only as a sort of tourist attraction, and for historical study and other purposes as befit a universal cosmic civilization that developed from, among many other such worlds, us, from 200 billion years in the past. And what if some of the UFOs and non humans we encounter are simply the "parks and recreation" staff, and maintenance workers in this vast historical recreation.
That's a cool theory, I think that thought (that this wasn't a coincidental discovery) crossed my mind too, but I didn't pursue it. Interesting that you've seen rumblings of this! It could very well be true. Funny that it comes from Korea, although according to Coulthart that's the location a giant structure was built around an immovable alien artefact -- that could be true, too! But in that case let's see some proof! :)
Also, I think it kind of sucks that all that UFO reverse engineering didn’t yield a high temperature superconductor before this… but I guess what can you expect when you sequester away all your materials, silo your research and in effect keep your neural network of nodes (as scientists) really small.
This open shit, as flawed and maybe annoying as it is to some people, I think it’s a much better model of science. It’d be great to see some UFO/UFO tech breakthroughs happen like this too.