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Were that the case, I’m sure I would’ve gotten fewer downvotes. ;)

Just the same though; JP2 would’ve certainly not held the poor woman’s fit of pique against her.


"the poor woman's fit of pique" -- are you defending the Catholic church's history of rampant child abuse, or do you think there is perhaps a less dismissive and condescending way to phrase this?


She wasn't complaining about child abuse (by anyone) onstage at SNL.

She ripped up a photo of a pope, who...hadn't abused any children. It was a cheap and safe provocation, and she got the response she wanted.

The existence of valid and necessary criticisms of Church conduct doesn't oblige me or anyone to match each of them to some dinky justification for (in this case) performative juvenile attention-seeking.

I could be less condescending and dismissive, but that would require me to pretend that a pretty basic taunt was some kind of deep commmentary. IOW, taking the piss.


> She ripped up a photo of a pope, who...hadn't abused any children.

Ah, I guess "just" knowingly covering for repeat child molesters is no big deal. Thanks for clarifying your position.


Covering for whom? He didn't believe the accusations against McCarrick, and Bernard Law was never charged criminally for enabling Geoghan (though he should've been).


Cool down the hysteria.

The Catholic Church has 100x less abuse than public schools (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/has-media-ignored-sex-abuse-in-...) , and yet schools don't have this negative reputation.

I know a single abused child is a child too much, but the bad reputation the Church gets is excessive. They probably have a better track record than any other institution.


> The Catholic Church has 100x less abuse than public schools, and yet schools don't have this negative reputation...the bad reputation the Church gets is excessive. They probably have a better track record than any other institution.

When children are exposed to Catholic churches for the same amount of time that they are exposed to the public school system and in equal numbers, and when some central authority of the public school system starts actively hiding any evidence of known sexual abuse from authorities and the public, and once the public school system starts silencing victims with threats or hush money, and after the public school system spends decade after decade quietly relocating known child-abusing teachers to new schools, one after another after another, so that the pedo will have a constant supply of new child victims every few years then I might agree that public schools deserve the same horrible reputation that the Catholic Church has more than earned for itself.

Until then, maybe you can stop pretending that the situation at public schools and the situation with Catholic churches are even remotely the same thing and that "any other institution is probably worse". There is no evidence to support that theory of yours, no matter how much you might wish it were true.

Downplaying the evils of the Catholic Church doesn't help their victims, and doesn't help the church either. You have to be able to look clearly at something broken if you want to be able to fix it. Pretending that the problem isn't that bad is the behavior of an enabler.




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