On: API Design is UI for Developers

[masklinn]

> I'll bite. From a UX perspective, PHP occupies the same important niche as WYSIWYG word processors or spreadsheets. Which is to say, optimized for beginners and quick websites.

Sure, I have no issue with that, I have issues with the assertion that PHP is simple and logical. Neither the language nor the standard library are. I'd hope I would not have to demonstrate this on HN of all places.

[ThomPete → masklinn]

Depends on the perspective.

For a beginner PHP is simple and logical.

[masklinn → ThomPete]

> For a beginner PHP is simple and logical.

We'll have to agree to disagree, because that is not a statement I can accept.

[ThomPete → masklinn]

And yet reality speak for itself.

I think you are looking purely at the language itself when what you need to look at is everything from getting started to actually seing it in reality in your browser.

What language is easier?

[masklinn → ThomPete]

> And yet reality speak for itself.

Yes indeed, PHP is objectively a complete mess of inconsistencies piled atop hacks and seemingly random behaviors.

> What language is easier?

That is a very, very different issue than the original subject.

[ThomPete → masklinn]

You skipped addressing the central part of what I wrote.