Don't use the term "breeders" that's weird and seems like you're trying to apply a negative term to it. I'm not sure why it's become acceptable to refer to it this way. I suspect it's a modern movement to discredit having children as a valuable, worthy life goal and make it sound more like it's a dirty animalistic behavior that we're too smart for.
"As far as I am aware, the US does not have that problem"
Not true, we don't have a replacement population. This means all of your welfare programs and retirement programs will not have enough people in the younger generation to pay into them and support them.
"I hate the pretense that baby making for normies is anything other than creating workers for the ruler class."
Where did you pick this view up? Yes people have to work to survive. What do you think society would look like if you just did away with all the modern conveniences and the "ruling class". Do you just assume you'd be able to sit around doing nothing or pursue your "creative goals"??? No, you'd be gathering firewood and hunting all day, hoping you don't die of starvation or freeze to death.
This is such a silly naive stance. I hear it all the time and it sounds so childish. I assume it's some Marxist trope young people pick up from college sociology class and think they sound smart. What you want is a class of plebs doing the manual labor for you so you don't have to do be a "worker". Someone has to do the shit work, just not an elitist like you right?
My suggestion to you is to find an actual purpose and stop stewing in your hateful anti-humanist outlook. Having kids can be that purpose, but you could actually just go out and do something to be helpful to other humans too.
> What do you think society would look like if you just did away with all the modern conveniences and the "ruling class".
You're drawing an association the ruling class and modern conveniences. Those are two incredibly different things.
I have a really hard time believing that because a small group of people have a disgusting amount of wealth, somehow modern conveniences are "divined" from that
They're not. Someone HAS to work to provide basic necessities like food, electricity, heat, emergency services etc.
What you want is for those plebs to provide that to you, while you essentially become the new ruling class that sits around benefiting off the working peasants.
I love how you hardcore Marxists only take the good parts of what you say while conveniently leaving out the guy that's gonna be wallowing in the ditch for you.
> I love how you hardcore Marxists only take the good parts of what you say while conveniently leaving out the guy that's gonna be wallowing in the ditch for you
Uhh no? I just think that the people working in ditches should be compensated a living wage, preferably through forcing the ultra rich to pay their fair share in taxes and redistributing
> This means all of your welfare programs and retirement programs will not have enough people in the younger generation to pay into them and support them.
So step 1 for sustainability: remove said programs, as the alternative is either A) acknowledging they are just a pyramidal scheme or B) removing individual freedoms and forcing people to have children they don't want to have, just to support the programs you want to have.
Step 3, don't enforce your borders or immigration laws and bring in a "replacement" population.
You're right, they are pyramid schemes. Which is why I think it's dangerous to put important programs like this in the government's hands and make your population reliant on them.
"As far as I am aware, the US does not have that problem"
Not true, we don't have a replacement population. This means all of your welfare programs and retirement programs will not have enough people in the younger generation to pay into them and support them.
"I hate the pretense that baby making for normies is anything other than creating workers for the ruler class."
Where did you pick this view up? Yes people have to work to survive. What do you think society would look like if you just did away with all the modern conveniences and the "ruling class". Do you just assume you'd be able to sit around doing nothing or pursue your "creative goals"??? No, you'd be gathering firewood and hunting all day, hoping you don't die of starvation or freeze to death.
This is such a silly naive stance. I hear it all the time and it sounds so childish. I assume it's some Marxist trope young people pick up from college sociology class and think they sound smart. What you want is a class of plebs doing the manual labor for you so you don't have to do be a "worker". Someone has to do the shit work, just not an elitist like you right?
My suggestion to you is to find an actual purpose and stop stewing in your hateful anti-humanist outlook. Having kids can be that purpose, but you could actually just go out and do something to be helpful to other humans too.