idk how much it would derail the discussion. The first paragraph said specifically “she couldn’t get pregnant” after trying for five years, indicating fertility problems.
If she was in her thirties then that would've turned the discussion into East Palestine. If she was in her fifties it would've proved their point better than the man's story and they would've used hers instead.
> would’ve turned the discussion into East Palestine
I guess you’re right about that. There’s so many illogical people on the internet without reading comprehension. I thought you speaking about a specific kind of discussion.
Possibly but not likely. It specifically said “she” couldn’t get pregnant. Not “they” couldn’t get pregnant.
My interpretation seems to be the most correct one based on the juxtaposition. He finally found the “right one” but “she couldn’t get pregnant.”
Of course, he could have lied or not looked into his own fertility issues. Being skeptical should always be a given when reading articles like this.
But also, what you’re saying goes against what many other people here have been commenting (i.e. “it’s well known that men can have children late in life”).
And let’s say that he did have fertility issues. My point would still stand, the mentioning of her age wouldn’t derail the discussion. (Which I think you’re agreeing with)
the counterpoints to that are that everything you observed are based on pervasive assumptions. which would be reflected in what everyone else wrote. which are perpetuated by the same health professionals and individuals that don't look into men's fertility realities first.
but for example, why do we know its just "she couldn't get pregnant", were their other partners? was there an accident in the past? was one of her ovaries taken out in a procedure? the article doesn't say, the only thing for us to assume is that they tried and tried and tried and eventually one egg stuck.
mentioning her age shouldn't derail a discussion whether she was 25 or 43 or other. that part we agree on, or at least I agree on, I think you're suggesting that she was closer in age and "therefore it would be okay", which is different than my observation entirely.
My point was that if you take the article at face-value and believe that the journalist did her due diligence and that the man in the article was telling the truth, then you can _presume_ (not assume) that the woman had fertility issues so her age wouldn’t matter regardless.
Also, you must have missed the paragraph in my last comment where I acknowledged it does make sense to be skeptical when reading articles like this, which is what you’re doing in recognizing that people make assumptions and then those assumptions pervade culture, media, etc etc.
Yes, I get that men have fertility issues too. Yes, there’s been a history of women being blamed for fertility issues. Yes, the medical community used to do XYZ and still does ABC today when dealing with fertility issues, etc etc.
Yes, I know all of those things and I still have the same opinion. Nothing in those first 2 paragraphs of the article set off any BS alarms for me.
If you want to be one of those “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” or “anybody can write anything on Wikipedia” proselytizers, then that’s your prerogative. I’ve outgrown that and that seems to be where we disagree.
> If you want to be one of those “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” or “anybody can write anything on Wikipedia” proselytizers, then that’s your prerogative. I’ve outgrown that and that seems to be where we disagree.
nah just on this topic because I see how it happens
article could have mentioned the partners ages and we simply have an absence of it to guess over based on our own/preferred “lived experiences”
