On: Goodbye, Twilio

[mlyle]

If we're looking at how many pies there are in the world-- yes, that's zero sum.

But if we're considering utility-- how useful stuff is to me-- it is far from zero sum.

If I produce lots of wheat, being able to trade some of it for my neighbor's beef makes both of us richer.

[AndrewKemendo → mlyle]

Your example proves my point

You have a fixed amount of already acquired property

You do specified labor on that

You exchange your labor + property for someone else’s labor + property

That’s commerce and has nothing to do with the question I’m talking about, which is: How you acquired the property in the first place is the ethical question.

What’s unethical is if your a neighbor was struggling to survive and instead of caring for him out of your property and labor, you convinced him to trade your excess money for a portion of his property in perpetuity.

So no, there is no more uncaptured “pie.” It should have never been caputured in the first place - it’s equally everyone’s right

[dnissley → AndrewKemendo]

If I develop and produce a fertilizer which doubles yields for a particular crop, that's uncaptured pie. Plain and simple.

[johndhi → dnissley]

Hehe hmm I think fertilizer might drain the soil faster though right?