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"FFS", then I'm going to make the argument that mainstream media is funded by subscribers too! Substack isn't much different from a newspaper.



Mainstream media has "owners" who "fire" editors when they don't like the stories being written. Journalist pitch stories at those editors. See Rupert Murdoch and the Times of London, The News of the World, The Sun, The New York Post, The Wall Street Journal and Fox News. For example, note how many times Tony Blair and separately Gordon Brown sought audiences with Rupert Murdoch.

You subscribe to the NYT or WSJ you use whatever payment gateway they set up and you read content using whatever CMS they employ.

You don't subscribe to substack it isn't possible.

You subscribe to say Racket (which is Taibbi) or separately Shellenberger and use whatever payment gateway they each seperatly set up and you read content using whatever CMS they employ. Substack is a service provider and one they can easily leave as Glenn Greenwald has in the shift of his news service to locals and rumble.

So with this information you can start making better arguments.


https://mashable.com/article/substack-writers-leaving-misinf...

Just admit it's not a perfect thing, just another flawed alternative.


I'm not "admitting" anything nobody claimed.

>The claim that the funding doesn't come from a "billionaire owned outlet" doesn't really track if you look at the investors[0] in Substack.

That's your claim to which I objected. It is nonsense. Your linked article above is ridiculous and has /nothing/ whatever to do with that claim. Don't admit it, just acknowledge you got it totally wrong. Easy.


Individual reporters making money with a blog (instead of employment with a news outlet) certainly have worse fact checking. The best news sources in the world have huge fact checking teams that help to verify everything. This small mistakes that Tabbi made would be much less likely to slip if he were part of a major news org.


I'm old enough to remember when any journalist who didn't check their facts wasn't worth reading for anything beyond entertainment value. P.J. O'Rouke would need someone to do the work for him. Sy Hersh, not so much.

I look at Taibbi's work and haven't found uncorrected error. NYT? WaPo? Well it's not fair, there are orders of magnitude more opportunities for them to mess it up but yep, they sure have, often, on stories Taibbi didn't.


I don't subscribe to Lee Enterprises but they run my town's paper.


Mainstream media is funded by advertisers, more than (or, in the case of TV/radio abd some others, instead of) subscribers.


Yeah advertising at me! The subscriber, free content or not.




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