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My Aunt was killed by the flu. She had a pre-existing unknown heart-condition and despite her healthy lifestyle the flu weakened her heart enough that she needed a heart-transplant in her early 20s. She died at age 27.

I tell this story whenever it is possible, to educate people about what the flu is capable of doing, whenever someone says the flu is "no big deal." Statistically, perhaps not. Unless you're the statistic that is.




Having had a number of bad colds before I actually got a bad flu, I always thought my colds were the flu. Not a huge deal. When it was confirmed to be the flu when I talked to her later, the mobile doctor said that many people think the same because they tupically don't go to the doctor for confirmation, if the doctor even chooses to test.

A real (non-covid) flu had me feeling like I was on death's door for a week, and much of that time was spent wishing it would take me.


I got H1N1. The only reason I didn’t end up in a hospital was because I forced myself to stay hydrated and somewhat lucid when I wasn’t able to sleep. It was really bad.


I got a type-A flu this year in early January, and holy shit was it painful, I hadn't been that sick in 25 years. Some co-workers and relatives also got it (in opposite sides of the Earth!) and reported the same, this year the flu was really strong.

In comparison, I had corona last week and it was a walk in the park (I am also quad-vaccinated, that might have helped).


> In comparison, I had corona last week and it was a walk in the park (I am also quad-vaccinated, that might have helped).

I can attest that somewhere between vaccines, potential acquired immunity and variants having reduced strength, my pair of confirmed Covid experiences (March 2020, July 2022) went from "the sickest I've ever felt, with symptoms recurring for months and persistent-to-present reduced smell capability" to "a mild cold".


Just for anecdata, I had the J&J vaccine early on, then the bivalent booster when it became available. In January, I got COVID, and I was "sickest I've ever felt" for about three days, "bad cold" for a week, "fatigue and brain fog" for another week, and "smoker's cough in the morning" for several months afterward.


I also had a very bad flu in early Jan2020. I'm typically very strong but my body was sapped of energy for 5 days and was different than any other sickness I've experienced.


I had H1N1 in 2009, weird thing was it was really mild for me

Haven’t had Covid either, despite being exposed to it (our son had it) and we tested regularly for over a year too


Is there a way to know who might be more susceptible to weakening of heart. Or is it just random bad luck with no known reason?


Diabetics and even those who have pre-diabetes or insulin resistance.


Mostly the latter as far I know.


It happens but it is rare. Given the COVID outbreak, it is definitely circumstancial evidence.


Not really relevant here though.


They are replying directly to a tangential comment that someone else made. It might not be relevant to this overall thread, but it's relevant to this particular comment chain.


Did any of the 3 researchers in question have something that would make them more likely to get seriously ill?


Doesn't really matter in the context of this tangential chain. Not sure why you're asking me as I haven't even discussed that.




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