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> "managers" have been the least important part of any team, and had the least impact on success or failure

I'd disagree...I think it can be difficult to see what the manager brings in when a team is good and runs well enough. It's a lot more obvious when you get a bad manager: the team stagnates, loses focus, valuable members will quit (there's the saying "employees don't quit their jobs, they quit their bosses"), recruiting also becomes harder.

There's too much to discuss in one comment, but managers that don't seem to be doing much while the team members are killing it are a precious breed and worth their weight in gold. An alternative way to look at it: they don't need to brag about being important, and have at least enough grasp of what their team does to not be standing in the way.




Great teams self-manage. Managers and management generally exist to ensure a baseline, but they can’t really do much more. In a strong team, everyone displays leadership properties, and they typically don’t listen to non-technical management.


Great teams manage their productiviry themselves, but don't work in a vacuum. Whether their output is properly evaluated and rewarded entirely depends on their manager.

If they increased their product KPI by 150% but their manager had the goal at 200%, your team's suddenly underperforming. If they need 2 more engineers to fill specific spots, the manager will be the one pitching it to HR and convincing upper management to green light the expense. Same for the team budget in general, same for company-wise deadlines, resource allocations, what growth opportunity the memebers get. And so on, and so on.

There's a myriad of super critical things that members take for granted but go through their mamager and get screwed when the manager is bad at its job.


Those teams seem pretty rare though. It also requires an org that lets the team not listen. Also what exactly is non-technical management? In most tech companies most managers are with a technical background. The problem is that they naturally drift further away from technology when not practicing it.




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