On: Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpu...

[skavi]

To be fair, the M1 is now approaching 3 years of age. And the game is being emulated.

[naillo → skavi]

Many much cheaper 3 year old PCs would handle this fine

[dannyw → naillo]

No, you won’t many cheaper 3 year old laptops running Cyperpunk 2077 on Ultra this well… name one.

[dahauns → dannyw]

Honestly, I wouldn't use the phrase "this well" non-sarcastically for ~15fps at 1440x900 like shown in the video.

[WhereIsTheTruth → dahauns]

this is on Ultra graphics settings.. not lot of laptop could even run it on Low

Cyberpunk is known to be a VERY demanding open world game

on lowest setting, this should probably be fine

[dahauns → WhereIsTheTruth]

Without RT it's actually not that demanding.

I mean, here's the game on Ultra on a Steam Deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHeso2jc_L0

[WhereIsTheTruth → dahauns]

Comparison is not fair, game porting toolkit also does X86 -> ARM, so it's missing perf on lot of HW intrinsics

Also this is the 1st gen M1, which was released in 2020, I wonder what's the performance like on the newest models?

[dahauns → WhereIsTheTruth]

Hey, you made the claim "not a lot of laptops could run it even on low". I just put that in perspective.

[Jnr → WhereIsTheTruth]

It says Ultra, but ray tracing is not supported so it is not really "ultra".

[smoldesu → WhereIsTheTruth]

It's an impressive turnout, but I wouldn't ignore the power of modern low-end APUs. Here's a 3-generation-old, entry level Ryzen laptop playing the game for comparison: https://youtu.be/Aqgm0zcV7Kw

"this well" is more or less equivalent to a older Ryzen 3's native performance. Apple is really banking on developers recompiling for ARM to reduce overhead here.

[smoldesu → dannyw]

> name one.

At 900p? Steam Deck does just fine (and it's SOC is even older).

[sudosysgen → dannyw]

1440p900? Any laptop with a 2060 mobile would do it. At 1500$ it's well within budget.

[rowanG077 → naillo]

13 inch ultra lights? I very much doubt that. You are basically relegated to igpus. I could see Ryzen 7840u beating the M1. But 3 years ago the best there was was the Ryzen 5800u.