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Sounds like helicopter management



These comments are so reactionary and low effort. A daily standup, plus 20 minutes a week, plus putting in the effort to be available as the manager is helicopter management?


Lol I’m just ignoring all this, my team had WAY higher output and feedback was always extremely good (from team members and management) Still keep in touch with all my former team members and many requested to follow my to my next roles.

The truth and my point was that as a remote manager you have a lot more input requirements. Basically; you need constant touch points with every person. These comments also point out the challenges in that, don’t want to over do it either.


I just sounds like the commenter doesn't have a good concept of "why". They are going through the motions, booking meetings etc. but are not really leading anything, just doing stuff.


How are you getting that? Where did they say it wasn't effective project management? They just said it was harder.

And it is harder. For example, it's way easier to see when a junior dev is lost when you can see pain in there face from across the office instead of hoping it shows in one of the check-in meetings.


asking simple, low effort questions -- "hey how do I log into [this new system]" -- is as simple as leaning into a room or over a cube, but with remote you have to poke someone.

in person you just drag a laptop over but remote you have a call, share a screen, carve out time. not necessarily more disruptive, but sure feels like more effort, and now involves multiple apps sucking up bandwidth and potentially logging everything you say.


Gosh, dragging a laptop over seems way harder than starting a screen share. No need to carve out time. Companies should be explicit about whether or not they log every conversation. Creepy companies that like to spy might already have cameras and microphones all over the place - not a good look.


"...but with remote you have to poke someone" This example does not make sense because in both scenarios, in person or remote, you're 'poking' someone (aka disrupting someone) to ask a question.

Also physically schlepping a laptop around to show someone is way more work than a simple screen share....and in either scenario here you're needing to 'carve out time'.


> putting in the effort to be available as the manager

Except that the parent commenter is expecting others to be available to them without regards to other people's working patterns.


Optional (non-optional) manager led mandatory fun over zoom is my nightmare.


I agree, I used to push the limits and always skip all fun events lol still do, for that matter.

That said, I’d set aside budget and offer it anyone wants to organize. If they did it they got a free meal, they’d get to start at 2pm, and could purchase games/activities.




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