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What a toxic and stupid comment. Hey guys Windows already exists, why build another operating system? /s



Yeah but it's a rule of programming laziness and hubris as outlined by ESR and Larry Wall, that you don't need to keep inventing tools that already exist. There's better things to programme. This dev isn't going to build a better Ableton on his own, and this site now simply lists all the reasons he can't, not problems to solve on his own. It will take magnitudes more than $500 of his time to replicate anything close to Ableton's functionality. I wasn't being toxic at all, just pragmatic. Pragmatism is part of knowing when to programme, and when not to.


Right, so like I said in my previous comment - you are the equivalent of someone telling Linus Torvalds "Why bother creating another operating system? MS-DOS already exists".

As someone who's used various DAWs extensively, Ableton Live most certainly is not perfect. It has a terrible piano roll (see FL Studio for a good one). Many have felt the same way, but they don't fix it and there's nothing you can do about it because it's closed source.

Of course building a DAW is extremely difficult. Doesn't mean that because a closed source version already exists that it's not an endeavor worth pursuing. I personally would love for there to be a quality open source DAW comparable to the commercial ones (if I were wealthy it'd definitely be something I'd bankroll).


Ableton isn't open source. There are also several other DAWs and Ableton isn't some pinnacle of software engineering. Take Larry and ESR and anyone else with some pinches of salt, because accepting some proprietary implementations of DAWs as a tombstone on the FOSS development of DAWs is rather reductionist to the point of being totally wrong.

Why would you bother posting such a comment?

Your notion that all questions regarding how to do the manifold tasks a DAW are resolved is specious, and you couldn't possibly prove it to be true because it's false. Ableton has managed to make a product that solves the DAW questions in one particular way, and it's a black-box to boot, so that's not in the public domain, as Meadowlark is.

The technical questions entailed in Rust trying to mate with GUIs are EXTREMELY UNSOLVED AND RELEVANT RIGHT NOW! Let me tell you, state, state, state.

I can't even propose that you work for Ableton as they are classier than this! Their product is a good and useful DAW for many people, you bet. Your point is?


Agree, but ironically I find your first sentence to be auto-descriptive / equally against guidelines.




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