On: First Rust code in the Windows 11 kernel

[flooow]

The way I have seen it explained before: Rust is not the perfect applications language, but there actually aren't any good mainstream applications languages out there, so Rust is perhaps the best we've got.

What I want:

    * Powerful, strict typesystem (typeclasses, sum types, type-inference, closures)
    * Constrained mutation, no 'spooky action at a distance'
    * Safe multithreading
    * Fast
    * Memory-safe
    * Native binaries
    * Large, deep ecosystem
    * Great tooling
    * Jobs

Rust comes closer than most.

[kaba0 → flooow]

Funnily enough, Haskell also fulfills all the listed qualities.

[flooow → kaba0]

That is not a coincidence :) I like Haskell a lot but at this point I am willing to bet that I will never be paid to write it. It fells like community of 'people like me' have collectively decided that Rust, not Haskell, is their best bet for a better life, and I'm fine with that.

[codethief → kaba0]

How many jobs are out there where they expect you to know Haskell?

[pjmlp → codethief]

More than for Rust, given its age.

[flooow → pjmlp]

Not sure that this is true now, but willing to bet my career that this won't be true in 3 years.

[pjmlp → flooow]

Depends on how much people feel like writing userspace code with the usability of a language designed for kernel, drivers and GPPGU programming.

https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell_in_industry

[pharmakom → flooow]

Rust is awesome but the ecosystem and job market are tiny.