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Speaking of stove tops - Neff's "TwistPadFire" somehow manages what I previously thought was impossible - it actually takes touch buttons and makes them even worse. The control is a a magnetic circular thing you stick on a specific area on the stove top. It comes off the stove top so first of all you have to manage not to lose it / you have to find it before you can use the stove. Then when you try to use it you have to press down then turn it without using too much force. If you use too much force, or fail to turn it in just the right way, it will pull it off the magnetic area and the whole thing stops responding to any input until you do some magic incantation to unlock it.

The problem is that you don't realise any of this until it's too late and your only option is to rip the stove top out and replace it with another brand.




I found it not that bad. Was considering to get a third one (after moving the 2nd time), but didn’t as the previous two tops failed right after being out of warranty.

Key for me was to learn that to activate the knob, you needed to make sure to touch both metallic rings on the knob at once.

I overall preferred the UX over a pure touch based interface. We stored the knob by attaching it to the hood (the knob contains a magnet), so it was always at the same location.


> The problem is that you don't realise any of this until it's too late and your only option is to rip the stove top out and replace it with another brand.

Honestly it is unreasonable to think something so ridiculously overcomplicated would ever work.


I like their solution, much better than just touch and still easy to clean. Very fast to go from 0 to max and back. No problem in activating them, you're 'probably holding it wrong'. ;)

I don't know how one can loose/have to find them, mine is always on the stove, I only take if off while cleaning and put it back on afterwards, which is a thing of milliseconds, thanks to the magnetic attachment.


Never heard of it; but after seeing a video demo; yikes! That idea looks dreadful. Even the little coin flip that's done with it after they're "finished" using it, makes it seem quite easy to misplace. Two bad ideas poorly stuck together with magnets :-)




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