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GM will absolutely lose this battle.

They will, but not by standing firm. No, first will come the backlash, then GM will "listen to its customers" and backtrack on this.

The problem is, I've already as of this morning stopped listening to GM. I sent the link to my wife, and now we're planning which Hyundai/Kia dealer to go to first to look at Ioniq 5s and $(whatever the equivalent Kia is called). Doug in Edmonds says he has 65 of the l'il buggers. We might just drive one home this weekend, at which point GM has not only lost a sale but further convinced me to stay away from GM.

Did I mention that my father worked for GM all his career, and already pre-ordered an EV Blazer, which we said we'd take if he didn't want it at delivery? Yeah, I need to send Dad quick email about that...




As someone who is quite concerned that I'm going to have to sell my Kia because insurance companies are refusing to cover them because they're so easy to steal, just... be careful which model you pick.


Its only really the models and years where they didn't have immobilizers. He's looking at an EV, it doesn't even have a cut key for starting the car.


One of the reasons I've taken Hyundai/Kia off my list is because I don't trust thieves to be aware of which models are easy to steal and which aren't. Even if they can't steal it, they can still fuck it up by trying.


Product idea for Hyundai/Kia: always-glowing high visibility start button


A good point. Also worth mentioned that Kias are (apparently) easy to break in to. Twice over the past year my neighborhood has had a group come around and jimmy just the Kias in the neighborhood to steal stuff from inside. I don't live in a high-crime area, either. It's real problem.


This is already what is being discussed.


I think I'll pick a 2023 that doesn't have that problem, starting with the fact that it doesn't have an ignition key. :-) But thanks for the heads-up.


Make sure you get a Hyundai/Kia with an immobilizer...


All Hyundai/Kia EVs are push to start.




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