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I don't want my car to team up with anyone, please. I don't want an already-outdated LCD screen and proprietary operating system in there becoming obsolete even faster than the battery wears out. I wish there were better options for that.



Isn't that the point of CarPlay and android auto? You don't have to rely on auto manufacturers to design the UI/UX for that screen and don't depend on the their OTA updates either.


Correct, guessing OP's never used it.

A good example: In 2015 I bought a tiny little Toyota Aygo (UK). It came with "Mirrorlink", it was the first car I'd ever owned that had a fancy touch screen, and it was advertised as working with iPhone's.

Now bearing in mind this was a brand new model, you can imagine how pissed off I was when I got the car, tried my phone and it didn't work, only to be told it only works with the iPhone 4 - we were on the 6S at that point.

To this day there has never been a software update. They continued selling that model with the misleading claims for about 4 years, eventually releasing a new model with carplay support. If I want carplay support added to mine, it needs the newer head unit which is around £900.

Car manufacturers are assholes. I dont want them having anything to do with the software, just make it work with carplay and android auto and then dont touch it, let the people that actually maintain their software on your phone deal with it all.


> I wish there were better options for that.

There is, it's Apple CarPlay and Google Carwhatever. The whole point of these are that it basically replaces the entire car infotainment setup.


I agree. I wish there were bare-bare-bones options with a radio and ac/heat. I will use my phone otherwise.


Yea agree so much with this. I just want a car with physical knobs and buttons bluetooth to connect to my phone's audio. Have to buy ~10 year old cars to get this.


My Subaru has physical knobs AND the benefits of CarPlay. This is not a mutually exclusive issue. And both work great together.


Yea some do have this, just not common anymore. e.g. I want a GTI, but I really hate the lack of buttons. Even the steering wheel controls aren't physical buttons anymore.


My 2023 Elantra has both google/apple support and physical knobs on both the console and steering wheel.

I can do most things without interacting with the touch screen at all.

Physical knobs and these systems def. do exist.


Give me an Aux jack or give me dea-

Well, shit.

Fine, give me bluetooth or give me death!


Actually, just the aux jack is perfectly fine.

I have a car with just aux, and I bought a $37 aux to bluetooth adapter [1] that works perfectly. It is a small puck shaped thing you can attach on the dash, with physical buttons for play/pause/prev/next, a good-enough microphone and you can answer/end calls with the play button.

If they release Bluetooth 6.0 or whatever with cool new features, then in a couple of years when I've bought a phone that supports this, I can just buy a new Bluetooth adapter.

[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/185493363534?hash=item2b30441b4e:g:...


The only time I've been in a car with aux and without bluetooth was when briefly borrowing my mom's car when I visited home, so I haven't had a need for a product like this.

Good to know they work quite well! Thank you.


That's hot it is with my Fit. No touch screens or syncing with apps or any of that. I stick my phone in the holder, plug in power if I'll be driving for a while, and switch the stereo to aux/bluetooth.

I've had rentals with Carplay/Android Auto and they're kinda neat when they aren't a pain in the ass to set up (probably due to the cheap head units' software). But I already see nav and hear directions/music/podcasts/calls through the car's stereo.

I thought about upgrading the head unit from stock, but then I realized I was looking at a few hundred bucks at least. I don't spend enough time in my car to need a slightly bigger screen when I already have one right in front of me, sitting in its mount.

Not as if I'd rip the thing out if I got a car with Carplay/AA built=in. I just don't see it as a huge selling point.


isnt that basically their point though


It seems like their point is to be able to capture more driver data, and get a nice sum from Google for making them the default (only?) map software. I would rather not have their OS at all.




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