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The speculation says that America uses its power to coerce cheap Nations to throw up bureaucratic obstacles and restrictions that prevent Americans from moving overseas easily.. America protects this financial capital for moving overseas but it also protects social capital for moving overseas by keeping Americans here and stopping them from taking their savings and moving to cheap countries and therefore robbing America of social capital... Let me be specific.. it would financially benefit third world countries to allow Americans with money to move in easily and without restrictions without Visa time limits and so forth.. and when I say any American with money I mean any person who's had a job and worked and saved the money from the job... I'm not talking about rich people ...

the idea is that America uses its power against the third world Nations to coerce them to throw up restrictions to moving easily overseas




No, the "bureaucratic obstacles" are often what people living with these countries deal with on a normal basis. The only thing you're adding to that is being on a visa instead of a citizenship.

Don't forget many third world countries are former colonies of western countries and don't necessarily want large amounts of westerns residing there again.

> it would financially benefit third world countries to allow Americans with money to move in easily and without restrictions without Visa time limits and so fort

It financially benefits third world countries when Americans with money _try_ to move in. Via bribery etc. Also many of these countries have high end hotels where they can get the same money from somebody who stays a week or two and leaves and never makes a fuss about local issues!

You should see what "bureaucratic obstacles" exist for people in third world countries that want to visit USA. The US tourist visa has no publically-known requirements beyond "shows intent to return home after trip". This is quite arbitrary and the visa officers at embassies abroad are given the final say in visa issuance. (To be fair, if there were bank balance requirements, people would both photoshop their statements and ask for friends/family to borrow the amount to pad their account before their visa interview). If you are rejected, they only tell you to "try again later" without ever telling you the reason of rejection. People who can afford to visit relatives and intend on returning at the end of their trip will have their visa applications denied on a regular basis. There's just so many applicants to be more through.


I don't believe that's true.

The only way I can think of that America coerces its citizens to stay, is that you still need to pay income taxes regardless of where you live.

I think the biggest hurdle is the Americans themselves, thinking that living in South America would be like living in a slum, or in the middle of the jungle. I assure you, you'll find a great life living in Buenos Aires, or in many cities within Argentina, that have nothing to envy from many American small cities.

It's not NYC or Dallas, of course. And you'll have to do without many gadgets, and learn to live in a turbulent economy, which can be tough for some people. But the reward is that if you earn USD and spend in ARS, the economy won't touch you at all. It might even make it easier.


If that was true, wouldn’t countries that are hostile towards the US like North Korea, Iran, Russia, Cuba, etc. be enacting visa regimes to undermine the US?

Having dealt with various nations’ bureaucracies, I’m more inclined to believe most simply haven’t been convinced it is worth their administrative overhead trouble to capture the financial benefits of welcoming digital nomads for longer stays. They’re quite well aware digital nomads exist and many desire longer stays. It is still considered a pretty niche population compared to regular tourism and likely not worth catering to yet. With RTO spreading, it likely will remain so until WFM becomes more mainstream in the future.


The USA does this in secret? That does not seem plausible. Think of the coordination required.


I can see that, in a lighthearted conspiratorial way. FACTA basically makes most foreign banks refuse to deal with Americans.


It makes much sense, considering that European emigrants to America were the force that conquered Europe during WWII. Maybe the American government doesn't want that to happen to them.




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