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Rotating Sandwiches – That's It (rotatingsandwiches.com)
173 points by benwikler on March 9, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 96 comments



I'm not sure if this is going to forestall or foment heated discussion about what is or isn't a sandwich, but it's certainly an attempt to codify what constitutes sandwichness:

https://cuberule.com/


There’s no such thing as a sandwich (phylogenetically)


There's no such thing as phylogeny (sandwichly)


Sure there is, you just need to look at the evolution of language, not DNA. The common ancestor is a meal eaten by the Earl of Sandwich in the 1760s, “salt beef between two slices of toasted bread”.


We would be remiss not to bring up the sandwich alignment chart:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlignmentCharts/comments/83l9jy/san...


Yet even their "Anarchist" (lower right) square has a rectangular item of food, with a starchy, finger-friendly exterior around a less starchy & finger-friendly interior.

Vs. a chart with chocolate-covered cherries, ceiling tiles, and such...


Agreed. One point of contention I've seen before is the question of whether a piece of fried chicken with breading is a sandwich. Personally I argue that it is not, because the batter is cooked for the first time on the chicken itself. The starchy finger-friendly exterior should be fully edible before the construction of a sandwich.

You could argue, however, that a piece of fried chicken with breading is technically a meat bun.


I mean, it really depends on the breading, though. Panko, for example, could be already cooked before breading the chicken.

So, I guess a flour breaded fried chicken could be a ravioli whereas a panko breaded fried chicken could be a sandwich.


I will proclaim that the finger-friendly exterior is important, but the order in which the outside vs. contents are added/cooked/finished/whatever is not.

So well-breaded chicken is. Likewise a two-crusted pie. But a ravioli is not a sandwich.


It is brought up on the "Cube Rule" page, but the page contains way more detail than so. If you haven't gone through it before, I recommend you do so.


I subscribe to the fringe "four foods theory":

1) Substance - Indivisible, elemental food. Example: Vanilla ice cream, no toppings

2) Pizza - Monobreadular, arranged. Example: Nigiri sushi

3) Sandwich - Multibreadular, arranged. Example: Big Mac

4) Salad - Separable, not arranged. Example: Salad with croutons


What is lasagna? It doesn't seem to easily fit in any of those categories, although it's clearly not a "substance".


Sandwich, as it is multibreadular and arranged.


Sandwiches are but one part of the equation! For full context see the taxonomic definition of Sandwich (domain Catino, kingdom Cincta).

https://iifrp.org/rfc/RFC-5.html

(disclaimer, I wrote this spec)


I’m a big fan of the cube rule except for its salad category. The idea that a frittata and a bowl of tomato soup are equivalent is hard to swallow (pun intended).


when has any comment posted publicly to the internet forestalled heated discussion?


hot dogs and burritos are sandwiches right?


All according to cube rule:

Hot dogs are categorically tacos.

Burritos typically begin life as a "calzone", but experience most of their brief lives through the lens of a "soup/salad in a bread bowl".

Sometimes people prefer to fold a burrito into the "sushi" pattern. Depends on your mental image of a burrito.


Humanity and its culture can't get stuck because of these outdated and despotic rules. It has been a while since I feel hot dogs started transitioning into quiche.

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-10-20-1445353534-3895...


A burrito is a calzone in the cube rule system, but I'd rather rename that class to burrito.


Agreed. Though oddly that does qualify a corn dog as a burrito on a stick


Fun fact: Some of the sandwiches seem to be rotating in the opposite direction. This is due to an optical illusion called the "Silhouette Illusion" [0], first discovered in 2003. If you focus hard on a sandwich and blur your eyes slightly, you can make it change which direction it rotates.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_dancer


I am assuming you are joking but I see other people responding as if you aren't.

This isn't true as the spinning dancer illusion only works on silhouettes and not full color images.


I squinted at the sandwiches trying to reverse their direction like an idiot. Guessing I’m not the only one.


The dancer illusion is as though you are observing the dancer from a long distance away through a telescope of some sort where things like her hands do not appear to vary in relative size as she turns and they become nearer/farther from us.


It also works on translucent objects and in a different form on the mask illusion, where a rotation depends on whether you believe the mask is bent away from or toward you.

Basically anytime that depth information is obscured.


I can't see how this is correct. The spinning dancer works because there's no details on it.


I was skeptical as well but after looking into it further I can confirm that it's actually true. The brain is amazing!


I still don't buy it - looking at these two in isolation:

https://rotatingsandwiches.files.wordpress.com/2023/02/banh-...

https://rotatingsandwiches.files.wordpress.com/2023/02/shrim...

Very "clearly" spinning in opposite directions.


The ambiguous effect of the silhouette dancer is real, but some of the sandwiches really are rotating in a different direction from the others.


Need more old-school absurdity like this on the web these days.


They need a BLINK tag version so as it rotates, it also blinks - or throws confetti or sparks.


Imagine opening Uber Eats and looking for a restaurant to order from. You are scrolling and they all look the same, but suddenly... What is that? That can't be right, this one has spinning pics of all the food they serve? HECK YEAH I'm ordering from that one


Why are VCs not backing more projects like this?


That's a company blog I would actually follow. I want to read a 4 page post about series-c funding to capture even more rotating sandwiches. I want to read about their hiring practices and how they use scrum to organize their sandwich projects.



Twitter account of the admin: https://twitter.com/notabigjerk


To lay this to rest:

Should a tear occur such that the bread around a hot dog separates into two discrete pieces, it is then a sandwich. Therefore a hot dog is a potential sandwich in the same way that an egg is a potential chicken.


Almost like the old Hamster Dance ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampster_Dance ) has been reincarnated...


Amazing - why aren't there any burritos in the rotating sandwich list?

Also you should create a bunch of rotating sandwich NFTs - if you went back two years you could a millionaire off those NFT sales.


The spirit of zombo.com is alive!


Sandwiches 10 and 25 rotate in the wrong direction, please fix ASAP!!


They might be from countries south of the equator? That would explain them spinning the other way.


That's a feature, those sandwiches are made of antimatter.


Make a Jira ticket


28 rotating to the right, and three to the left.


Two word title, creator's contact info, content, end. The platonic ideal of a single-purpose website. It's beautiful.

The backend isn't quite so clean. It has a bunch of superfluous Wordpress template cruft, even some trackers my ad blocker had to catch. Still, I like it overall.


Are these sandwiches AI generated?


thissandwhichdoesnotexist


No.


Oh... then was chatGPT used to come up with the idea?

I just don't understand why it would be on the front page without AI??


Nope. A twitter user films her sandwiches rotating and posts them. That’s it, that’s the whole website.


This is a good website to demonstrate the Pulfrich effect! Squint your right eye or cover it with sunglasses, and watch the magical sandwiches pop out of your screen.

I really wish online stores utilized this to convey dimensions and material texture better.


Thank you, now I'm hungry


Even more rotating food is available at the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/rotatingfood


I hope there'll be a collab with https://www.instagram.com/sandwichesofhistory


In case you think NeRFs don't have any useful applications


I like how some are cleanly cut in half, while some have been half eaten. Just to keep it from feeling like it's repetitive.


Are these done with NeRFs? Feels like they are but could just be lots of photos around the objects. Curious if anyone knows.


Not sure but I think they’re just videos of the sandwiches rotating. Here’s a pic of the lightbox with the rotating platform: https://nitter.net/NotABigJerk/status/1628493044113711105


This gonna pivot into sandwich social network


I am the hotdog to your pastrami.


That's why I pay for the internet


Reminds me of

  * badgerbadgerbadger

  * bad.horse

  * ascii star wars
Also makes me hungry.


These are all gifs. No weird technical trickery at all. But it's well presented.


I thought it was going to be some animation: spin css, but it is just a bunch of gifs.


This website needs a Little Luca Ultimate club sandwich almost as much as I do.


Sir, I come to make a complain about no milanesa sandwich.

I hope this issue will be fixed soon.


Torta Milanesa here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10d92PBihj-yx1D8QPo-Fcp1UrzQ...

Folder with all my sandwich gifs here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10d92PBihj-yx1D8QPo-Fcp1UrzQ...

Thanks to everyone who said nice things about my sandwiches!


Lauren, as a long-time follower I was excited to see this hit the front page of Hacker News. Since you’re here could you share some technical details about how this works? What kind of hardware/software stack are you using? Are you using NeRFs(?)?


Thanks for asking! I record everything on my iPhone in a lightbox on a rotating jewelry display, then pass the video through Premiere Pro for grading and framing, AfterEffects to rotoscope out the background, and then Photoshop to legacy export as a GIF.


Thank you for sharing your sandwiches! Both of the links in your posts are for the milanesa, though


fifth one down.


It would be nice if restaurants used this technique for their menus.


...but there's a rotating hotdog. That's not a sandwich.


I agree. People always talk about technicalities, ingredients, structure, etc. in this argument.

For me, the main reason why a hotdog isn't a sandwich is that you can't use the two interchangeably. I would never go up to a hotdog stand and ask for a sandwich.


Right. That's why hotdogs are not even food, or organic matter. I would never go up to a hotdog stand and ask for organic matter.


I think hot dogs are vegetarian but not vegan. As in, the stuff in a hotdog may or may not require the killing of the animal.



Please keep political flamethrowing off HN.

(Although I agree)


A sandwich is not an ontological category and should be eradicated.


Agreed, please send me all of the hotdogs for safe disposal. Also bratwursts, especially bratwursts


Is anyone elses CPU almost melting when this page is opened?


What's the timeline for iOS/Android native apps?


I'm going to need Enterprise-Grade Sandwich Rotation Systems.


a billion times better than facebook/instagram/pinterest. exactly how it should be.


What's a hot dog doing there?


Bringing glorious richness to the universe of sandwich possibility


it might be pastrami on rye time!


Is there an API for this?


Can we have a chip butty?


Thanks now I’m hungry.


U all just hungry?


are these NeRF captures? looks pretty good!


Hot dog and gyros. Yeah, well about those...


no open sandwich? meh, this seems very US centric




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