When did facebook innovate? They are known for copying everything from everyone. FacebookAI is the most important think to come out of them , but it s not really related to FB's core business
React is an innovation, in what exactly? It bloats the web with needless javascript and abstractions. It's a convenient shortcut for people making native mobile apps. It's not taking the world forward
You are the one who set up the goal posts. Just because you don’t like where you put them up doesn’t mean you can change them once people prove you wrong.
Nowhere did you say that Facebook’s innovations have to be the reason the end user uses the product, or even used by the end user at all. All you said is that they have never innovated. That is the bar. And it is clearly extremely low as Facebook has done lots of innovating with products used by developers all the time.
I know we are in a bubble. Facebook did not grow because of graphql or vr, it grew because it copied and bought anything in sight. I guess most ppl are too young to remember, however.
I guess you could say that fb created some innovations, mostly in their labs, but they are not in the business of innovation
> Facebook did not grow because of graphql or vr, it grew because it copied and bought anything in sight. I guess most ppl are too young to remember, however.
> but they are not in the business of innovation
Who in this thread claimed they are in the business of innovation or that something is innovative only if it affects their direct customers? This entire response is a strawman, plain and simple.
Once again, your clearly defined bar is, and I quote:
> When did facebook innovate?
Stick to the bar you set and be humble when it’s clearly proven to be a dismally low bar.
Please. This is an escape hatch attempt to avoid being accountable for setting up goal-posts which have been easily met whilst you trying to also move them.
Even outside of AI with PyTorch, Facebook invented React and has been pervasively used by hundreds of millions of developers and billions on the web.
If neither of those are examples of Facebook's innovations on both the web and AI, then I don't know what is.
any company with tons of money is going to build some stuff thats innovative by virtue of hiring people completely irrelevant to its core product. FB is a social networking and ads company and it was not particularly innovative at that. It was not a web development house or an AI powerhouse, and it's still not (that's not where it makes its billions).
> any company with tons of money is going to build some stuff thats innovative by virtue of hiring people completely irrelevant to its core product.
So by your own goalposts, they DID release innovations then?
> FB is a social networking and ads company and it was not particularly innovative at that.
I wonder what those psychologists and engineers who worked on the Like button with the team who built the AI that is used from that, to Ads and the social graph would say about the billions of dollars and stock value that it has made for Facebook.
Again, you set those exceeding low goalposts for your point. If not even that is an example of an innovation relevant to Facebook's business and made it billions of dollars, then perhaps nothing is.
Well it just so happens that most of the things people replied with (in fact, all of the things except PyTorch) have nothing to do with AI innovations, so great we can all agree to call them real innovations. Which is what they all are. And what you claimed Facebook doesn’t do.
The fact that you’re continuing to double down is astounding.
