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I don’t disagree with them. Reality disagrees with them.

When LLMs “hallucinate” they don’t do so in random ways like somehow deciding to “rm -rf /“. They do so in predictable ways.

What, am I supposed to handhold every person in these forums until they stop reading garbage on the internet and start either doing their own empirical research or at least read other empirical research?

Edit: Apparently the answer is yes, I am supposed to handhold every person in these forums… and I will tirelessly do so, even in the face of provocatively incorrect yet populist statements like OPs… I still imagine I lose my patience every 100 or so instances, as seems about the average these days…




The first two guidelines for this forum are these:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If you get tired of respectfully explaining why people are wrong, then you can always stop commenting and go get some fresh air. What you should not do is lash out aggressively with zero explanation for why you feel so strongly about this.


Thanks, dad.

Funny enough, I reviewed your comment history and you seem to be of the same opinion as the person I was responding to…

…could that have perhaps motivated your patronizing tone?


I didn't intend to patronize, just remind you to chill out. I need the same reminders from time to time.

I note that the conversation that started from your re-submitted (and much improved) comment was quite productive and insightful on all sides, which is exactly what the site guidelines are designed to enable.


Yet it somehow attracted downvotes anyways…

What you’re missing from your perspective is that the original comment was aggressively wrong.


Wrong, perhaps, but not aggressively so. They were making an observation that could very well have been misguided, but there was no aggression in their tone.


Look at the next response where OP admits they didn’t need to be so extreme.

This is of course to be expected based on those that are optimizing to be rewarded primarily for their opinion and not for how it is stated.

I don’t find your argument convincing because I am not purposefully ignoring the social context. Your intentions are suspect, even if they are subconscious.

Like, if I’m unreasonably polite in response, downvotes. If I’m reasonably impatient, downvotes.

What exactly am I to infer here?




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