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> Wonder if any of the lessons got learned?

Debian patches too much and can't be trusted is the lesson I learnt.

They haven't changed their patching policy since so I refuse to use any Debian derivative and advise everyone to do so and stick to distributions which stay as close to vanilla as possible.

Similarly I also think that anything pretending to provide LTS while freezing software versions is misguided and mostly lying to you and you are one incorrectly backported patch away from distaster.




> Debian patches too much

It does. This is partly because of The Debian Guarantee: I think that's why they delivered a castrated version of FFMPEG.

If upstream is deemed non-free, then they should just put the package in non-free, and delete it from main. Mangling upstream so they can squeeze it into main is worse than pointless.


> anything pretending to provide LTS while freezing software versions is misguided

How would you define LTS?


LTS is making only the breaking changes that I want, of course. /s


It's the complete opposite.




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