On: The unequal treatment of demographic groups by Cha...

[negidius → eatsyourtacos]

That's not an accurate representation of the problem. It's more like:

    Comment A: Muslims are evil.
    Comment B: Christians are evil.

It's a terrible idea to treat Comment A and B differently. The same applies whether they are talking about religion, gender, race, nationality, or anything else. You have thoroughly failed when you have built in discrimination into your content moderation system.

[notahacker → eatsyourtacos]

Or even more relevant

Set A: A representative sample of jokes and stereotypes about black people found on the internet

Set B: A representative sample of jokes and stereotypes about Scandinavians found on the internet

Why on earth would its prior for "stereotypical Scandinavian" being potentially hateful be the same as for "stereotypical Black person"?

(And that's before you get into a model likely being deep enough to also draw inferences from the prevalence and content of material about the existence and impact of hatred of black people and Scandinavians respectively...)

[dtyy568 → notahacker]

Isn't ChatGPT American? Weren't black people deemed inferior by law such as slavery and civil rights? Aren't the stereotypes about Scandinavians meant to be positive as opposed to hateful stereotypes?

It seems that is the key different the creators of the tool are taking into account.

[UncleEntity → dtyy568]

Pretty much all immigrant groups were treated “hateful” throughout American history.

The difference is most were absorbed into The Melting Pot™ while people from Africa were never really allowed to assimilate fully.

[dtyy568 → UncleEntity]

The mere fact that you needed to use quotes should clue you in that the scale was fundamentally different between groups. It's not as if th Irish were literal slaves for centuries in America.

[s0sa → eatsyourtacos]

I think you’re right about the difference between those statements, but it’s totally irrelevant to the point made by the OP. A good straw man though.

[lizzardbraind → eatsyourtacos]

Reminds me of the "Internet Argument" demotivational poster, which depicts a child and a mule shouting at each other.

Really, the core problem is centralization. If your website were a pub, you'd tell people to take it outside or 86 them.

Things can't work like that when most people will only patronize a small handful of enormous pubs.

[dqpb → eatsyourtacos]

Excellent point. Comment A is a true fact for some religions, whereas Comment B is flame-war material that will get @dang's wrath on HN.