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Clowns Without Borders (clownswithoutborders.org)
225 points by logikblok on Jan 30, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 78 comments



I personally know some people involved with them and donating their time to help out with shows in very risky areas of the world.

After hearing some of their stories I got a deep appreciation for the work they do, it might sound silly or borderline stupid to some people but to me it's such a beautiful social experience, to go into conflict areas, extremely poor regions of the world afflicted by disease and bring something that is pure joy to an audience that doesn't have access to that. There are some extremely beautiful souls volunteering for CWB, knowing their work won't solve any parts of their audiences' social situation but trying to give them inspiration to keep dreaming, I definitely feel something deep inside my soul was touched after meeting some of them.


Do you know if they adapt the shows to the countries they're in? I'm wondering how universally understood clowns are.


Clowning in modern/new circus is much more related to physical comedy than to "traditional" clown as we expect. There are still some of the traditional roles like the whiteclown, the auguste, the character but they are reinvented/remixed with more outlandish comedy and acts like acrobatics and body tricks (one of the best clowns I've seen has some amazing ping-pong balls juggling with very physical acrobatics in them).

The people I know who worked in CWB have very different styles of clowning, they all work to adapt their acts to the local culture, it's really important for CWB volunteers to understand and cater to the local culture, they do research to avoid anything that could be remotely offensive, etc.

Just to source this a bit: my girlfriend is a circus artist here in Sweden so I have some insider view into it, it's actually a very fascinating part of the performing arts.


A friend of mine is a professional clown (https://www.clintbolster.com/) and honestly it's such a respectable profession and form of art. So much goes into a ten minute show - years of work and planning and practice. More work than software, I'd say.


> A friend of mine is a professional clown (https://www.clintbolster.com/)

Interestingly enough (although not surprising) he is friends with a close friend of my girlfriend, an Australian aerial straps, swinging pole, and Chinese pole artist :)

> More work than software, I'd say.

Living around many of these performers really put that into perspective to me. Working in the arts is such a completely different game than whatever white-collar job we might have, more akin to scientists in STEM (in the sense of how much passion they have while not being well paid).

There's so much that goes into what looks like a simple show that really made me appreciate much more any form of entertainment or art the past years.


> Interestingly enough (although not surprising) he is friends with a close friend of my girlfriend, an Australian aerial straps, swinging pole, and Chinese pole artist :)

It's a surprisingly small community!

> There's so much that goes into what looks like a simple show that really made me appreciate much more any form of entertainment or art the past years.

I also grew an appreciation for much I was willing to pay to see good art being performed when I learned of the effort going into it. Sometimes if a musical or play doesn't quite hold my interest, I still find it highly enjoyable due to the sheer skill and work involved in just DELIVERING the content, regardless of the content itself.


> So much goes into a ten minute show - years of work and planning and practice. More work than software, I'd say.

I know many musicians, and also Marketing folks that do demos.

This type of thing is a lot more commonplace than people think.


Very true. I think as a society we're developing an under-appreciation for just how hard some things are.


Looking at some of the videos and pictures, it seems they aren't always wearing what I'd call "stereotypical" clown outfits - just maybe some light makeup and clothes that clearly stand out, while they do "funny things". Juggling bowling pins and dropping them is probably universally understood, even if you have no idea what bowling is.


Physical comedy translates well :)


So nice


Funny to see CWB here. I ran into CWB's founder Moshe Cohen[1] at FOO Camp back in the 2006[2]. His performance there was sweet and funny. I had a coffee with him post-FOO too.

IMHO there are few nobler acts than going into high-conflict areas to help people reconnect with the inherent humanity in shared experience and laughter. The work CWB is doing is beautiful.

1- https://moshecohen.net/about-2/

2- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dionh/226434543/in/photostream...


I was at that FOO Camp, just scrolled through photos and found myself & friends. Thank you for the memories :-)


I used to work in the humanitarian sector, which is frankly a complete shit-show.

I once was drinking with our local EU humanitarian representative, a grizzled veteran of many missions. It's his job to oversee projects running on EU money, which is one of the largest chunks of any response. I really respected the guy, one of the smartest and capable people I met in the business.

He'd been in Haiti, which is famously one of the worst of the worst, and I asked him what the best piece of work he saw there was.

Without hesitation, he said it was these guys. Refugee camps can be bleak and miserable places, and he said that when CWB were doing their thing, the whole atmosphere lifted.

When we think about aid, we think about food and water and shelter, but we're dealing with normal people who've often been severely traumatised. It's hard to understate the value of work like this. Particularly when most of the aid-workers you encounter just wander around doing surveys asking the same questions the last lot did.


This took a solid ten minutes or so for my cynicism to die down, but I'm glad I took the time to read the comments because it is a deceptively good idea for people without a lot of hope or material benefits coming their way.

I wish them luck, this is probably a very difficult thing for volunteers to go and do


Finally a place where me and my fellow spring boot developers can call home


FWIW, they don't yet have a rating from Charity Navigator (note that this doesn't indicate anything negative, only that the org hasn't yet been evaluated):

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/204102508

That said, I do hope they get vetted soon, this is such a worthy cause and absolutely warms my heart.


There's quite a few of these circus outreach projects (off the top of my head I know performers without borders and the flying seagull project, but there are lots more) and they all seem to be small, scrappy, run by one or two long term organizers and with projects staffed by volunteers. It's not the type of charity that receives enough money to grow big enough to have the structure and paperwork that can be evaluated against the metrics used to judge larger organisations. I know that they often seek grants from larger charities and that requires a decent level of review & documentation.


I know someone who's worked with them and it seems like a very legitimate scrappy organization


Glad to hear that!


Friends of mine also went to Nepal with Clowns without Borders. They even did a documentary :-)

https://anita.bertolami.net/project.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qK0n8kA-w


I just donated a small amount via paypal - their successful payment UX is just delightful. Feels unfair to call it a donation! :)


Neat. I've heard of celebrities doing USO performances for troops during wartime, but don't recall any organized effort to entertain people, say, facing disasters.


Thought this was going to be a picture of my executive team. Glad to see it is a much more worthy cause!


See also the Birthday Clown Consortium Price Guide: https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-birthday-clown-conso...


I don't like clowns, but this is really nice for that people. great project I'm sharing it and donating something.

Anyway, is there somewhere, something like IT without Borders? To donate time or effort, our hands to build infraestructure for places wothout it?


Interesting question. I don’t know if there is but I presume there isn’t, unlike doctors, artists, or journalists, engineers usually need a lot of thing to come together to perform our specialized skills, which means we probably need local and financial support far greater then the previous.

It can be argued that the same applied to doctors, and I agree with that, however MSF is such a massive organization, with such high recognition that they are able to perform a lot of good work despite the complexity of logistics and support needed.

Perhaps the immediate benefit of even rudimentary medical aid is still highly appreciated even if lacking compared to if there were systems in place to fully support the skill. I think the benefits of skilled engineers are not nearly as universal without support.

EDIT: I found this article called A-To-Z Guide of the World’s “without Borders” Groups[1], which included a Technology without Borders group[2]. And I see some of the areas they focus on include water, energy, and waste. I can actually see how rudimentary waste management infrastructure can be of great help for impoverished communities, so perhaps I was wrong to doubt it.

1: https://matadornetwork.com/change/a-to-z-guide-of-the-worlds...

2: https://www.teog.ngo/?lang=en


At one point this existed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeks_Without_Bounds

Their website doesn’t seem to be doing well at the moment though.

I originally learned about it from https://seagl.org/archive/2017/open-source-from-standing-roc...


To me clowns are just like kindergarden teachers, they make me cringe beyond belief even though I understand their target audience is successfully being taken care of. I am happy for their work but I never want to see one in action again


Between DWB and CWD, I feel like there would have been a huge opportunity here for Robin Williams, RIP.


this is so good its not funny.


Another similar concept I’m aware of is magicians without borders


Probably less triggering at scale, but similarly to a lot of comments posted here, my mother is deathly afraid of magicians. I have seen the blood drain from her face as she grips the arms of her chair and looks around in a panic at the mention of magicians. I have witnessed full out panic attacks on encounters with real life magicians, and discomfort that one would only typically associate with watching "torture porn" or a particularly squirm-inducing Dr Pimple Popper when magicians appear on TV. Revulsion when learning that the actor Ricky Jay was more known for his work as a magician.

Conversely my mother had regular conversations with a woman who worked as a clown at a local restaurant, which caused her no displeasure.


Interesting. So it's not even a specific aesthetic, just the concept of magicians? I.e. The tuxedo and mustache guy with a top hat and a wand is just as scary as Criss Angel and/or David Blaine?


[random guy on street] tuxedo top hat guy = actual tuxedo top hat magician = david blaine. Any type of magician or perception thereof or association with the idea.

Edit: she is not particularly religious or superstitious either. Her relation to this fear is similar to that of anyone who is extremely uncomfortable/scared of clowns, just a different elememt of the circus.


Weren't these guys just in Davos?


I'm waiting for someone to mention how buying bed nets would be better but, in the mean time: their work is emotionally impactful and it's a great project.


My thought is that clowns are very good at making people laugh and perhaps less at installing healthcare infrastructure.

Also spreading joy can be just as important as material needs. It's an orthogonal dimension.


For those unsure of the reference, bednets are arguably one of the most cost-effective ways to make a positive impact in people's lives:

https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities <-- see Against Malaria Foundation


just so long as it is not mime artists


So clownworld is real?


As someone afraid of clowns, this is a catastrophic failure of clown containment.


I really don't get coulrophobia.

I get the fear of crazy looking ones like Pennywise, but how is that different from the fear of any non-clown maniac with a crazy look on their face and intent to murder? You could put a guy in a Pluto (Goofy's dog) costume with a serial killer grin on his face wielding a machete and I'd be just as scared.

I will say thought that as an adult perhaps a dislike for clowns cause they're terribly unfunny is logical. Cause someone trying hard to make you laugh especially through slapstick humor rarely works out. But I'm sticking to the fear definition of phobia and not dislike definition.

But a fear of all clowns just cause .... I don't get it.


(I don't have coulrophobia)

The distortion of the facial expressions can make it harder to read and that can cause anxiety in some.

Consider the other extreme - https://twitter.com/SchrebersSister/status/11872730519494082... and that the distortion or the lack of features can be anxiety provoking.

If the clown face is always happy, or always sad, even if the person shouldn't be. Are they looking at you, can you track where they are looking? Are their eyes open or closed?

The facial recognition wiring in the brain could be sending "I don't know what to do with this" signals to the rest of the consciousness and that's leading to the corresponding anxiety that then manifests as a fear of clowns.

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Tangent of tangent that I was reminded of: Using AI to Find Where Clowns End and Juggalos Begin - https://medium.com/@nhoral/using-ai-to-find-where-clowns-end...

ICP doesn't just stand for IBM Cloud Private.


Water! Fire! Air and Earth! F-ing magnets? How do they Work? And I don't wanna talk to no scientist! Y'all are lying and getting me pissed!


> ... I don't get it.

That's thing with irrational fears.


I always wonder what triggers that. Were you like scared by a mean clown as a child? Or was it just like that without any stimuli?

I mean many children are scared of Santa due to it being a stranger in their house but I see no adults say they are scared of Santa.


Reminds me of Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey from Saturday Night Live:

To me, clowns aren’t funny. In fact, they’re kind of scary. I’ve wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.


For me, it is highly dependent on the context.

If I see a clown in the midst of a performance, it's fine. It feels "right". You're kind of far away from where they are, and them wearing colorful clothes and strange makeup makes sense because it helps a large crowd see their movements a bit easier. It's the "home" of the clown.

If I see a clown doing anything mundane, or just not actively "on" performing in front of a crowd it feels repulsive and weird. Clown just walking down the street? Horrible. Taking pictures with a group of people? Gross. It feels unnatural. It's like the hairy child vomiting photo. [1]

The worst is if I see a clown eating or smoking. A clown is a mechanism of performance and entertainment. For them to be "merely human", to be doing something relaxing evokes a kind of juxtaposition that leads to a kind of horror and disgust I can't quite describe. It's like walking down the road and coming across a Silverback Gorilla casually sipping a cup of coffee, reading the newspaper - it's an incongruity.

Also, I'm pretty sure the initial spark for my weirdness with clowns started with The Simpsons. [2]

[1] https://www.trendzified.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/what-...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZcfGRroiaA


For me, it's a "man behind the mask" thing. Clowns play big, with exaggerated expressions and responses.

The incongruence between the acting and the person behind the acting wigs me out.


That's what it is for me. I also get the same feeling from certain common manga/anime drawing styles (e.g., "moe") with exaggerated eyes and exaggerated responses, despite moe apparently being seen to be cute by most people. (I get this feeling especially strongly from styles where no nose is drawn.)


Moe from the Simpsons? I thought the running bit was that he was considered ugly?


No, "moe" in the Japanese sense. Typically, a petite face, large eyes dominated by enormous black pupils, etc.

The way it makes me feel is a little like the response evoked by the movie Coraline, which used dolls with big black button eyes and no noses to evoke a queasy kind of horror-lite response.

It doesn't have to be large features though, it can be exaggerated small ones too. For example, Art the Clown has a small black dot on the tip of his otherwise white nose. It's unsettling.


That makes sense though in this case, if you look at the banner video on the homepage, none of them are wearing masks, just some light makeup. So perhaps that will make it better for any coulrophobics in the audience.


I tried making a clown using stable diffusion one day by blending 3 different clown-generating prompts together, and the result that came out was a horrifyingly grotesque inhuman monster. I've never had that happen just blending prompts together to make normal people. The clown makeup screws with how their faces are embedded or something. It ended up with Giger-esque multiple sets of teeth. I can only assume there's a similar phenomenon going on in peoples' imagination.


Dunno for sure, I've always found them creepy and repulsive.

I do recall flipping through the channels as a child and coming across one of the scarier scenes from It. That might have some bearing on this.


Clowns don't bother me, but I think it might be an uncanny valley thing. Clowns have exaggerated human features, ones that could be grotesque if they were real. I think that means they can share an element with body horror, which does bother me.


What causes fear of clowns? Probably the prevalence of both evil clowns (John Wayne Gacy, Stephen King's It, the recent Evil Clown meme). That, and the prevalence of the fear of clowns.


for me it was a hobo clown painting in the family room whose eyes always followed me as a child. told my parents it was scary but it never came down, i just assumed it had a lock on my parents souls or something.


I always thought it was a joke, until I met someone that was genuinely afflicted by it. On the plus side, it's really fun to go through haunted houses with them around Halloween.


on the contrary, Ive found it an incredible validation of the Clowns with out Borders effort in its entirety. Circuses, parties, TV, movies, war zones, my nightmares, you name it...clowns can always reach it.


The Mossad must be green with envy.


Coulrophobes of the world, unite !



Where can we support Mimes with Borders?


Don't they make their own?


The perfect murder is to trap a mime inside a real glass box, in the park where everyone can watch him desperately try to get out while horribly suffocating.



See also the death on stage of Tommy Cooper:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37dxyk


A mime is a terrible thing to waste.


Well that certainly took a turn!


True, but these children have real problems and don’t have the luxury to concoct feelings of grief by other people’s peaceful self expression. I think it’s a win.


I enjoyed this chuckle… and I agree!


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Read the first paragraph on the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


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Keep reading the guidelines, you will get to this point:

> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.


I figured the title referred to the US government or the board of Meta.


Why clowns?? Just setup some nintendos or something. ... The worst / funniest thing about clowns is the dunning kruger effect they all seem to have about their efficaciousness. Like the clown doctor in the 'childrens hospital' adult swim show.


Nice to see the World Economic Forum branching out with new branding.




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