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> Good luck finding clear documentation on how to write the pyproject file. For something that is supposed to be the way forward there hasn't been much effort to make it easy to implement.

PEP 621, which I mentioned, covers the format of `pyproject.toml` in detail. I also linked an example which, to the best of my knowledge, covers all current best practices for that file.

> There's also annoyances like the inability to install a script in the search path without implementing it as a module. Something setup.py doesn't require.

I'm not sure I'm following. A module in Python is just a Python file, so your script is a module. Are you saying that you can't distribute single-module packages with pyproject.toml? Because I don't think that's true.




The PEP in no way explains how to write a usable pyproject for ordinary projects. It's basically just targeted at people developing installers.

I meant package. A directory with an __init__.py. You can't install standalone script.py (or a generated wrapper) as /usr/local/bin/script with a pyproject.


> The PEP in no way explains how to write a usable pyproject for ordinary projects. It's basically just targeted at people developing installers.

Did you look at it[1]?

> I meant package. A directory with an __init__.py. You can't install standalone script.py (or a generated wrapper) as /usr/local/bin/script with a pyproject.

I still don't think I understand what your expectation is here: a `pyproject.toml` is just a metadata specification. The only difference between it and `setup.py` is that the latter is arbitrary code.

There's an old, long deprecated way to use `setup.py`, namely `setup.py install`. But that's been discouraged in favor of `pip install` for years, which behaves precisely the same way with `pyproject.toml`. If you want to install a script into `/usr/local/bin`, `pip install` with a package specified in `pyproject.toml` will work just fine.

[1]: https://peps.python.org/pep-0621/#example


Not doing that either … until there are ways for only the person (me) to hold the key to the revision submission into pip.


You're confusing `pip` with PyPI. `pip` is a package installer; you can use it to install local packages, or packages that are hosted on an index. In this case, we're solely talking about local packages.




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