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Balmer cared but he didn't care about the end user in the way that we how Jobs and Nadella do as we're talking.

Balmer made office the massive cash cow it is today through amazing licensing - again great stuff for $msft, but there was no product through his tenure that people were like yea, Microsoft! The iphone was dismissed and the windows phone was too late and couldn't play catch up.

Today people are starting to care about Microsoft again. Definitely not 90s love but man I love VSCode. I really do.




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