>You think so? Ya'll lost 200,000 men to Southern fever, steel, and shot. Next time it'll be 20 million. Know your limits, yankee, and stay north of Dallas.
The south started with a treasonous surprise attack and had most of the the infantry that wasn't stationed in isolated western frontier territory or along the us-canada border, the countries war college at westpoint and many of the countries highest generals, once the north got its act together it started to burn the south to the ground. There is a reason the south still dreads the name Sherman.
You got set on fire once when you started the fight with sucker punch, and you want to try to pick fight again?
Well put. For our international observers I would note that the War of Southern Aggression that began with the treasonous attack on Fort Sumter is nearly identical to the behavior we're seeing out of similar origins today. New US states were increasingly free rather than slave states, and thus when democracy wasn't going the way of those who wanted to maintain slavery, they attacked their own government.
The terrorist attack on January 6th was the exact same root cause, democracy not going the way some want it. Leading them to embrace terrorism and violence. After the Civil War, the KKK was created, which continued the terrorism of our citizenry for decades. Yet in that case, the KKK came after the failed attempt at succession, today MAGA came before the attempt.
I describe myself as a 'pre-MAGA Republican who supports labor unions', but there's a rotten seed in American discourse today that was always there and it's largely the same people then as now.
The south would have no chance in Round 2. Most of their money and manpower actually comes from 'Yankees'. Which historically when someone is called that, it's the easy indicator to who is loyal and true to the United States, a real American patriot. Whether spoken spoken by a Brit or Johnny Reb, you definitely want to be called a Yankee as it's a badge of honor that you are loyal to your nation.
Those that are moving south are whose ancestors' allegiance was to the United States of America in the Civil War, and they still maintain that allegiance to this day in those families. They are not loyal to the defunct Confederacy and would not die for their Lost Cause.
> badge of honor that you are loyal to your nation.
When ya'll roped us into fighting the British, that declaration you published called us the "united States of America." Not the "United States of America." That's a subtle difference, but an important one.
When in the course of human events, one State does something another State considers intolerable, that State has every right to throw off the shackles of friendship and loyalty. We united our states out of a common interest, but we _never_ signed away our rights to a federal government. We started as, and remain, a republic of states.
And yeah, you may be Athens with all your philosophy and fem lit universities up north, but before you go threatening war, remember which part of the country is Sparta.
>And yeah, you may be Athens with all your philosophy and fem lit universities up north, but before you go threatening war, remember which part of the country is Sparta.
There is just so much wrong with this statement I don know where to begin
First off the Athenian league Won against the Spartans... so Ok we are agreed that the south is Sparta in this analogy.
Also you do realize that the southern culture and spartan culture are completely opposite on everything but slavery right?
Sparta had institutionalized Pederasty and post-birth abortion and encouraged homosexuality in the military none of which are thing liked by the south.
secondly Sparta went into decline as it increasingly focused on suppressing the helots (slaves) the the exclusion of all else destroying there society. as Sparta militarized itself to the point that spartan men spent most of their lives living in their barrack away from their wives dropping their birth rate.
as for "fem lit university" spartan women were some of the most independent and educated in the ancient world.
as for claim that
>State has every right to throw off the shackles of friendship and loyalty. We united our states out of a common interest, but we _never_ signed away our rights to a federal government.
you did. what you are talking about dates back to the articles of confederation which was superseded by the US constitution which was ratified by all of the states the south included, and provisions a strong federal government.
Sparta lost, by the way. Just as the Confederacy did. So I can’t argue against that. If you guys can get off disability or out of the Waffle House to fight us.
A states rights argument. We know what you wanted, to enslave mankind so you didn’t have to work. That’s what it was about. We already did war. And we successfully put an end to your treasonous ancestors, and ended your deplorable system of slavery.
I’m not sure what you folks are angry about. Losing? No slaves? Failed at treason?
When I lived in Texas I asked a man there how they could possibly celebrate the 4th of July. No one can answer that. The CSA were traitors, and all traitors receive a traitors death.
Never heard such sentiments before now from an American. That's just disgusting. Disdain for fighting for the freedom of our nation? Much of The South really is a cesspool.
The rest of this recent reply is just hilarious though. Pretending you got "tired of killing them" and surrendered? Yes, exactly. Great interpretation of an utterly and completely defeated people. I lived in Texas, they can't even defend our southern border from illegal immigration, and we're supposed to be scared? I saw nothing particularly tough or built about any of it. They're just bitter and pissed like many south of the Mason-Dixon are to this day. Hatred for real Americans (Yankees) doesn't mean a thing. Come up here and chop some wood in the winter, your balls will drop and may sprout some hair.
As noted, simply being of or from The South does not make one a traitor (nor does it make one wise or tough). Whether it's Ulysses S. Grant or the great patriot, Sam Houston, men from all parts of the US ended up in Texas.
It's everyone's choice whether you want to go the route of hiding under a woman's dress like the Jefferson Davis, or a man that history looks kindly on like Sam Houston. Some of you are built different for sure. Not very bright, and prone to treason. Apparently in both the Civil War and Revolution. That was a new one for me. Lines up well with January 6th though.
> Come up here and chop some wood in the winter, your balls will drop and may sprout some hair.
Hmm... I lived out of a tent in the Catskills for a full year. I only left because I didn't want to go through a second winter. In fact, I've lived on every coast of this country, and walked through a huge chunk of it. Where I live now, I built by hand from scratch. Cleared the land with a chainsaw, machete, and shovel. I seriously doubt you've got room to talk about balls dropping.
My point is that using the Civil War as an example of the "extreme military prowess" of the United States is kind of a joke, because that presupposes that "the United States" was the Union, and the Union lost way more men than the Confederacy did. Hundreds of thousands more. So maybe don't hold that up as a banner victory, because you did objectively lose it for the first ~3 years.
By the way, I'm a fuckin' anarchist, so don't put Jan 6 on me. I don't give a fuck who's president.
“Texas declared its secession from the Union on February 1, 1861, and joined the Confederate States on March 2, 1861, after it had replaced its governor, Sam Houston, who had refused to take an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy.”
>You think so? Ya'll lost 200,000 men to Southern fever, steel, and shot. Next time it'll be 20 million. Know your limits, yankee, and stay north of Dallas.
The south started with a treasonous surprise attack and had most of the the infantry that wasn't stationed in isolated western frontier territory or along the us-canada border, the countries war college at westpoint and many of the countries highest generals, once the north got its act together it started to burn the south to the ground. There is a reason the south still dreads the name Sherman.
You got set on fire once when you started the fight with sucker punch, and you want to try to pick fight again?