Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

So do you think they should hire less skilled people? Isn’t that the much hated “affirmative action” instead of hiring based on merit?

As an American citizen you wouldn’t want to be considered a “diversity hire” would you?




Do Japanese people who work at an all Japanese company feel they were diversity hires because their company did not hire Indians, Americans, and Chinese people who had nicer credentials?


Are you saying you are unable to compete in an open market? All of the Big Tech companies make a lot if their money internationally. Why shouldn’t they recruit worldwide?

And holding up China and Japan as exemplars of economic development is not the winning argument you think it is…


>Are you saying you are unable to compete in an open market?

yes. ~350M vs ~7B (1.2B China, 1.1B India) means more elites in the bigger population. I am talking only about immigrant visas, not foreign offices. I have no problem with foreign offices hiring people from that country. I do take issue with continuous importation of elite-skilled people. This is doubly so if our education system relies on importing the best people rather than home growing them or trying to remain competitive. There is evidence Americans are declining in STEM right? we should try to reverse that.

I am less concerned about the short term economy as I am with turning the US into a global free for all for the best that US citizens can't possibly compete with presently. It could turn into a death cycle for current Americans. Surely that isn't sustainable or healthy. No doubt, dropping H1-B numbers would lower GDP but we should build it back more sustainably.


How is it in any way better to have a foreign office where none of the employees salary gets spent in the US than having immigration? Either way you are competing with foreign workers in aggregate.

And until this year, any CS grad that spent time practicing interviewing and could “grind LeetCode” for six months could get a job in tech. College teaches nothing that helps CS grads be employable at most companies.

Other countries graduate more prepared students because they don’t believe in the bullshit that college is meant to make you a “better citizen of the world” and they prepare their graduates with useful skills


can't reply any further on other branch.

My theory is that it could open up more space in the top graduate schools and undergrad for Americans who didn't make the cut otherwise. Maybe we can improve on this. We could work on making standard education a little harder too to fill the gap we would need. It's going to be hard competing globally though. We may need to bring people in but I believe the numbers we have are very high right now. I would like to see the mean of america become more educated and richer and more skilled as opposed to just the extremes.


I think you overvalue the quality of CS programs even in elite schools to prepare graduates for real jobs compared to other countries.

BTW, click on the time on the post to reply when the reply link isn’t available.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: