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Why is anyone surprised by any of this ?

I don't mean to sound like a pleb, but the biggest lesson of the past two centuries is how much people bluff, use the name of 'science, progress, blah blah' to push for their own profits, regardless of actual consequences (bodily or environmentally or ecologically).

I generally stick to old-school goods that are totally natural, cheap and are still massively produced in India. With the 'generic' stuff, half the shit is made from tortured-killed cows (urgh vomits) (admittedly, this is mostly outside India), and all of them are filled with god knows what, and made from god knows what.

If you're India, check out Patanjali's ash and lime dishwasher soap that cost like Rs. 20 per bar. Shout out to FitTuber on Youtube who reviews a lot organic products from India.




There is nothing about something being "natural" that makes it inherently safer. Indeed there is nothing that is not natural in fact. Wood ash soap is no different than any other soap you may buy in the market. It only differs in the way that potassium hydroxide, that is used to make soap, is obtained. It doesn't matter whether you obtain potassium hydroxide from wood ash or other industrial methods, it still is potassium hydroxide! Of course in older times burning wood was the only known method of obtaining potassium hydroxide. It doesn't mean it's the best method not does it change the overall outcome in any way.

You seem to be taking a diss at science. The point of science is to learn more about things, whether they are old school or modern. Science does not discriminate. People of course bluff in the name of profits for their own gain, but if you do not have knowledge about the things, you won't be able to call out the bluff.


Nobody in this thread is expressing any surprise or shock. It's perfectly sensible that incredibly penetrating and dispersing engineered surfactants would damage a biological organism. It's the most natural thing in the world and I doubt anybody would feel surprise or shock when hearing that yet another engineered synthetic lifestyle substance is bad for you.

On the other hand if we were to learn that these synthesized products were actually good for you that would be surprising.


> torture-filled cows

I think other animals are used just as much (if not more) in industrial processes, I assure you there's no conspiracy to specifically oppress cows.




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