On: Porting 58k lines of D and C++ to Jai

[umanwizard]

Cargo isn’t part of Rust (the language) and you can use Rust without using Cargo.

[bsder → umanwizard]

And yet cargo-raze still requires cargo and is still experimental after 5+ years of development effort by folks from Google.

It is my fondest hope that the Linux folks will finally beat the cargo out of Rust.

[umanwizard → bsder]

> beat the cargo out of Rust

But cargo already isn’t in Rust. There are AFAIK no cargo-specific concepts that have leaked into Rust, the language. It is very straightforward to build Rust code without using cargo, for example with a makefile.

The reason other tools are slow to add support for rust is because cargo is so ubiquitous in the rust ecosystem that there is little point (I’d estimate that >99% of Rust code is built using Cargo), and not because of any technical impossibility.