I personally dislike replies like "you didn't even read my comment" because, let's be honest, I don't always read very carefully the comments I'm replying to. But I do have to quote my comment above :)
> But putting numbers makes your position vulnerable - because on one hand global warming does have some good effects, and also wealth and tech more than compensate the ill-effects. For example you may find numbers on extreme weather increasing - but if you look at people affected by it, it's steadily going down.
I really doubt you can find numbers of people suffering more than 20 years ago. You might be tempted to say that it isn't fair, that the developing countries are a lot less poor now - a lot less starving children in Africa, China is middle class and so on. Which is exactly the point - industrialization is more than compensating for anthropogenic changes, and it keeps doing that at an accelerated rate. I don't think raising ocean level is a good thing, but I do have to point out that Netherlands is dealing with sea level a lot better than West Africa would - and in another 50 years West Africa should be where Netherlands is now.
Anyways, I'm not against limiting climate change. I am very much against knee-jerk reactions like the OP, because they do real harm. Post-Covid Europe went ahead and pushed climate legislation, ignoring the pandemic and the economic crisis that was already peeking from around the corner. They cut a lot of slack from the system, and the next shock sent energy prices and inflation soaring.
A more informed and balanced policy would have prevented that. But comments that call an opposing view as "delusional" aren't really helping on the informed and balanced front.
> But putting numbers makes your position vulnerable - because on one hand global warming does have some good effects, and also wealth and tech more than compensate the ill-effects. For example you may find numbers on extreme weather increasing - but if you look at people affected by it, it's steadily going down.
I really doubt you can find numbers of people suffering more than 20 years ago. You might be tempted to say that it isn't fair, that the developing countries are a lot less poor now - a lot less starving children in Africa, China is middle class and so on. Which is exactly the point - industrialization is more than compensating for anthropogenic changes, and it keeps doing that at an accelerated rate. I don't think raising ocean level is a good thing, but I do have to point out that Netherlands is dealing with sea level a lot better than West Africa would - and in another 50 years West Africa should be where Netherlands is now.
Anyways, I'm not against limiting climate change. I am very much against knee-jerk reactions like the OP, because they do real harm. Post-Covid Europe went ahead and pushed climate legislation, ignoring the pandemic and the economic crisis that was already peeking from around the corner. They cut a lot of slack from the system, and the next shock sent energy prices and inflation soaring.
A more informed and balanced policy would have prevented that. But comments that call an opposing view as "delusional" aren't really helping on the informed and balanced front.