1. The current administration in the United States is in general anti-fossil fuel development.
2. The United States is already at max capacity for its export capabilities. There is no incremental supply to satisfy demand.
3. Destroying foreign supply when demand can't be met only serves to destroy demand because it forces the market to move to alternatives (case in point: OPEC and how they try to not let oil prices get too high or low).
It's ludicrous to suggest the US has a significant economic interest in executing some sort of industrial sabotage on NS1/2.
Nice cherry pick. The president is likely referring to sanctions.
Your link doesn't support your claim that this is economically motivated.
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the -- the border of Ukraine again, then there will be -- there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,"
Even if it were a threat to destroy the pipeline if Russia invaded, Russia invaded. So now what would you expect to happen?
Sure the US companies would love to sell more LNG, but my understanding is they don't have enough ships to sell them, i.e. they are selling every lb they can already and they just can't get capacity to sell more to the EU, which makes it a much less rational decision to do this.
That's the thing, there is high demand, and they have supply, they also can sell them contracts to build more infrastructure to increase the rate at wich supply is delivered
So the question is, why it is fine to let gas transit from Ukraine, is that to let them get their juicy royalties? so this sparks the question of corruption, who fuel and allow that corruption?
I do not pretend to know everything, but i read a lot and that's the best conclusion i can make, so far, there is clear evidence that the US doesn't want the EU to get their supply from elsewhere, Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict is yet another evidence, wich is where EU wanted to get some of their supply
Worse, US's gas production is illegal in the EU, they don't allow the production within their soil, so it's clear evidence that they were forced to buy US's supply
I can also predict the future, the US will build nuclear power plants int the EU, instead of EU getting them from France, all started when the US built them for ukraine back in the days, the motive was clear
Wich is why France sold their companies to the US, and had to loose some due to some shaddy stuff (Alstom), it's clear current French government works with US's interests in mind, same for Ursula von der Leyen and her team of european bureaucrats
It's just ridiculous to claim that the US somehow sabotaged the pipeline to help LNG gas' future potential. There is infinite demand for LNG today, hugely unmet demand. It will take a least a decade of increased infrastructure and ships to get even close to meeting current European demand for natural gas. The world is not a James Bond movie. Obviously everyone is doing things to help Ukraine today. We are giving them billions in weapons, plus training, giving them money and intelligence, sending our advisors there. Lots of countries have given up greenhouse gas reductions temporarily hopefully, to handle the current emergency situation. The US govt wishes it had all this conspiratorial influence you imagine. The US has tried to talk the europeans out of depending on russian gas for decades. Of course we want all the customers we can find, but there's no shortage of customers! Geeze. The world loves oil and gas so much you don't need to sabotage alternatives to get more customers.
>There is infinite demand for LNG today, hugely unmet demand.
Yeah, coz of the war. Before the war they couldnt shift it.
>The US has tried to talk the europeans out of depending on russian gas for decades. Of course we want all the customers we can find, but there's no shortage of customers!
There was in 2021. LNG is particularly unappealing to countries with a pipeline.
There's a reason that, much to America's chagrin, Germany have zero LNG port capacity.
> That's the thing, there is high demand, and they have supply, they also can sell them contracts to build more infrastructure to increase the rate at wich supply is delivered
Sure, but it's not like they can build large LNG cargo ships overnight.
Doesn't matter, keeps prices high. Besides that, one delivery of LNG amounts to a revenue of about 150 million USD/EUR/or something. So depending on the route one such thing could do that about once per month, or maybe once every six weeks.
This is not "gas production in the EU", these pipelines used to transport gas produced in Russia to the EU.
The termination of their operation has been a done deal for a while. The US has no interest in sabotaging them: it's already a done deal that the US will supply the EU with gas instead of Russia:
Absolutely anything that is neutral or requesting for peace or mentioning any of US activities is met with "Putin Bot" , "Kremlin Bot", "Russian Bot" accusations including xenophobic slurs of "what I think of Modi".
It's insane requesting for any civil conversation in this environment.
Like bruh, my name is from Trinidad. Entirely different continent from India/Asia.
Judging by your name was my mistake, my apologies, but if you want to stop people to be harsh with you, you can also just stop trying to defend a bloodthirsty dictator...
Also stop mixing facts of past governments and past eras with judging present nations.
Also, I don't have anything against Indians (on the contrary, I like India I even learned a little bit of Hindi, and I love bhajans), I just hate the part of this nation that thinks that the West is an enemy.
So please don't pull my leg saying that "it was a xenophobic slur" or whatever.
Your list of submissions nailed the coffin about what I think of you. Sorry dude.
While you're at it, why not speak of Petain and collaboration with Nazis? What is holding you back?
Why are you speaking of different times with a different government? And times when there was not at all the sense of climate crisis we have now?
The Macron government has been elected in the light of the AGW emergency (even if Macron is still trying to save the growth "en meme temps", but oh well).
The whole population, the mainstream politicians, and the media, have a total different mindset than at the time of the greenpeace ship bombing.
Not at all on a large scale. In France only one single plant is prepared to be restarted, among a lot of criticism from the population. This has nothing to do with "restarting coal" in a broad meaning.
> LNG
Lots of hesitation about that from the governments, too. Very criticized, but the rationale they are proposing is that the LNG infrastructure would be useful for hydrogen later (not my words), and that they are still doing the energy transition towards renewable, only it will not be done in time so they need the gas.
You see, the West (except some illiberal outsiders) is completely sure that the energy transition towards renewables is the solution.
The only variable is time, and whether the various populations are ready and willing to suffer during the first few winters or not.
> propaganda in the west
I'm sorry I think you are not seeing the reality: tons of diverse opinions in the West. But false claims are not just equal to true claims, in that fewer people believe them and fewer relay them. That is why most people are against fossil fuels, as they understand the mechanisms underlying AGW.
But on the other hand is there propaganda in India? Are the media free?
Is Modi an illiberal?
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You broke the site guidelines badly. We ban accounts that take HN threads into flamewar like this. We also ban accounts that use HN primarily for political/ideological battle, which it looks like you've been doing.
If you continue to post like this, we will ban you, so please stop posting like this. Ideological hell battle is not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.
The government and their politicians never get judged by their results, but by the means they put in place. They will go harder next time and request more money, stricter regulations, and more power to fight global warming.
