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Kiwi farms has lead to the deaths of multiple people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassm...



It’s a bit more complicated, as I’ve tried to understand and explain. This is a case of the worst people on the Internet fighting. Trans streamers who send sketchy hormones to underage kids behind parents’ backs vs. versus the very worst trolls from 4chan and 8chan. Doxing and SWATing has been practiced by both sides. The owner of KF and his mom have been doxed; two mentally unwell trans women with weapons showed up on his doorstep. Severe mental illness has contributed to suicides which one side wants to blame on the other, rightly or wrongly. I don’t fully understand the history, but what I’ve seen of the Keffals story has been alarming.

The point I’ve been trying to make is that KF as a platform at least has strong policies against offline harassment, and Keffals (their current nemesis) has an extensive documented history of child-endangering behavior, such as hooking minors up with life-altering drugs without involving parents or doctors. If KF users were really behind these SWATings in an organized way, I’m not sad to see the site gone. I am however worried that the point about Keffals will be lost, and that this was in some sense the purpose of the exercise. What this person was up to on their drug distribution website and Discord full of sexualized minors is monstrous.

All the data that was dug up on Keffals has been archived. I guess it’s up to real journalists to take that ball from here, if any will.


To be clear, "Drug Distribution Website" is a common resources list for sourcing HRT when you do not have supporting medical access to it. This is a far reach from "Distributing Drugs".


Telling underaged children to buy hormones made in a sketchy lab in Brazil that say “Hide from parents” on the anime loli-themed box art, all without medical evaluation or oversight, is reckless and monstrous. Children cannot consent to puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones.

This is explicitly and exactly what Keffals and co-owner Bobposting do on the DIY HRT Directory. See “Homebrew Sourcing,” first vendor:

https://archive.ph/hP6pT

Box art:

https://m.facebook.com/Spaghattas/photos/a.106898500685482/4...

Isolated and confused children are sexually lobotomizing themselves to the encouragement of their favorite Twitch streamer. This is without even mentioning the “Catboy Ranch” Discord server, now scrubbed, where a nearly 30-year-old Keffals charged sexually and shared photos privately with minors.

None of this has been include in NBC or anyone else’s reports, except Kiwi Farms and one radical feminist blog. Now that Keffals can illegally DDoS KF, the archive links will be harder to find.


> None of this has been include in NBC or anyone else’s reports, except Kiwi Farms and one radical feminist blog.

Interesting sources, there.

You don't have to Archive those. I can link to them right here:

https://diyhrt.wiki/

If anyone out there is in need of HRT but does not have access to it - or can not get access to it - please check out that link.


> except Kiwi Farms and one radical feminist blog.

Oh yeah I’ll believe anything I read on those. Real trustworthy sources!


You can visit the archive links and live site yourself, the blog I mentioned adds nothing new. I mentioned them to illustrate the lack of attention paid to this point by the media; only such an obscure, relatively partisan blog has picked it up (so far).


Yeah, I'm noticing some goalpost shifting from the poster you're replying to. That's some real bad faith posting (edit:on their part) right there.


Kiwifarms has a strict "do not interact with the people being discussed" policy. Anyone who does is immediately scorned for it and often banned. It's not uncommon for people outside of the forum to swat others and blame it on the forums, though.


This is correct, and easily verifiable with a quick look at the actual website.

It is also entirely possible that users coordinate harassment out-of-band. I am unable to tell if this is what’s happening.


Once again, these are all social media claims by people who, in many cases, weren't even connected to the dead person. And in most of the cases KF wasn't even mentioned by the victim at all. In fact one of them explicitly lists the mental health system and the fact that they were just made homeless as their reasons.. That didn't stop social media "allies" from ignoring their final comments and using their deaths to attack KFs.


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Near stated they would commit suicide, a major news outlet and people close to the victim stated they committed suicide, and they haven't been heard from since then. They are almost certainly dead.




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