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1. TikTok appears to be the optimum in social media platform evolution for the foreseeable future. The other platforms don't even come close. TikTok presents a perfect stream of user interests - no "friends" that bare little interest graph similarity. It's all delivered in a video funnel (great for ads) and A/B tests are so natural they're part of the platform itself. Highly optimized dopamine-triggering doom scrolling perfectly tailored to the viewer.

2. Some people are worried about the CCP exerting control to learn about sensitive leaders and their families [1] or to persuade populations at scale [2]. The app has been shown to capture all keyboard input [3], clipboard contents [4], and record much more than it needs to function. Furthermore, all US-based social media is blocked in China, and there's an argument for reciprocity. The topic of Facebook being used to gather international intelligence for the US is not typically mentioned in the same conversations.

[1] opinion; https://www.wsj.com/articles/on-tiktok-its-all-fun-and-games...

[2] https://www.economist.com/interactive/briefing/2022/07/09/th...

[3] https://www.notebookcheck.net/TikTok-is-monitoring-all-keybo...

[4] https://threatpost.com/tiktok-to-stop-clipboard-snooping-aft...




> TikTok appears to be the optimum in social media platform evolution for the foreseeable future.

Could have been Vine, but we allow leaders in an industry to buy out insurgent, innovative competition and shut them down.

> Furthermore, all US-based social media is blocked in China, and there's an argument for reciprocity.

Reciprocity would be walling off sections of our social networks that could be bound to Chinese censorship laws. We get a special TikTok that isn't bound by Chinese censorship, if we want to be in China we must give them a special Facebook that is.


> We get a special TikTok that isn't bound by Chinese censorship

Content negative to China gets removed all the time while content negative to the US stays up. So I would assume there is still censorship.


I don't know anything about what's on Facebook for the past 10 years other that what people tell me. But if it's like everywhere else, it's utterly drenched in anti-China invective that periodically gets deleted if it crosses into open racism and wasn't said by Marsha Blackburn.


Oh don't get me started on Facebook. Since the War started in Ukraine, every single artcle is drowning in: 'western propaganda', 'russia is awesome', 'putin is awesome', 'china is awesome', 'america sucks', 'america is going to fall', 'russia sucks', 'china sucks'... etc

Prior to the war there was mostly around articles to do with covid so it was easy to avoid most of it.

It's impossible to avoid now.

I was reading comments about the iPhone 14 and the comments were reduced to 'stupid americans, we make your phones, haha you're too dumb to make iphones'..

Makes me want to quit the internet.


Which hash tags can I try out to see that it doesn't lead anywhere because the content gets removed?

Maybe I don't know enough about what bugs the CCP but I can find content with the hash tags #tiananmensquare, #hongkongprotests or about the social credit system in China, each showing thousands of videos with millions of views.

When a video by "Stopcommunistchina" about Tiananmen Square is the top result when typing it into their search bar, I wonder how bad their censorship algorithm must be to miss this.




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