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Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?
176 points by prndqs on Aug 28, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 199 comments
I'm the founder of a small 7 person startup in the fintech space.

Should I share info on upcoming behind-the-scenes partnerships, etc with employees to pump them up? Or is giving too much information counterproductive/risky if an employee leaves?




Share it all. Complete transparency. Show them the cash flow.

At your small size you will benefit from the additional trust and alignment this will bring. You may find yourself delighted in finding that many of your team can see and solve problems that you may have missed.

You can be super secretive to combat the BigCo mentality like Apple when you have the first class problem of being a BigCo.


While I agree on the benefits of sharing information and always being transparent, one should be mindful on how to communicate strategic and sensitive information internally, specially with regard to junior staff:

- Avoid generating too much expectation, which can lead to frustration if things don't materialize, and impact team morale.

- Always provide context so the team can better understand how/why events took place and decisions were made.

- Think preemptively, put yourself into your team shoes, and try to address doubts that may arise from your communication upfront.

- Always give space for clearing doubts, and follow up to your staff to assess the impact of your communication. You'd be surprised in how many ways people can react to the same information.

With time, you get to better know your team, build trust, and become more effective communicating with them.


Yeah, you really have to understand the audience.

I'd be very hesitant to share partnerships until they're done. Either because people will inappropriately mention them (a junior salesperson running his mouth on a phone call cost a former employer $5m++. no joke. a partnership deal that wasn't inked got rescinded after he told the wrong company and it got back), or more likely, get misset expectations about deals that can still fall through.

That's different than sharing rev numbers, about which I think founders should be very open. I'd share deals when they're inked, along with a lot of repetition about what can and can't be shared externally.


This is all solid advice.


> You may find yourself delighted in finding that many of your team can see and solve problems that you may have missed.

This is something a lot of founders seem to overlook.

Also, along with spotting problems - people who are engaged in a transparent org can more easily spot unexploited opportunities and bring them to the table.


Slight caveat to "complete" transparency: https://youtu.be/-5SWvaKGULo?t=249


Any tl;dw to that 43 minute video?


The relevant part was at the timecode the OP linked to: authenticity is overrated, to succeed as an entrepreneur you need to be able to put a positive face on events.


Ah, it just started at the beginning on my phone, somehow. Thanks for that!

Also somehow it’s not even close to 43 minutes, not sure where I got that from! Sorry to the poster :-)


On the flip side the more you share the more people will opine on your decisions and cause you to second guess yourself. So sometimes more is less. As a founder you will make dozens of decisions every day... Many of them are coin flips which don't need too many cooks involved - especially when your team should be focused on building the product towards the vision - and not so much on the bank account.


Great way to have leaks and create lousy hygiene around information security. Culture is most difficult to revert then. The default should always be on a need-to-know basis. Anything else should be justified.


Couldn’t disagree with you more.


There are very few startups that need to be in “stealth mode”. If anything, startups need to be more vocal to get themselves on the map and to do way way more customer development.


I agree with you, I only remember, maybe once thinking that “yeah, those guys needed to be in stealth mode, that makes sense”

I think anyone who credits stealth mode with their success probably doesn’t realize they would very likely have also been successful without it.


Are you sure, specially in easily copied technology domains?

In my experience, software, business processes, and hardware are best kept close to the vest until sufficient momentum and maybe market saturation is reached.

It does not matter if the item holds a copyright/patent/trade mark; they are post even re-active solutions. It's like an ambulance after a car crash. Excellent if there are good doctors in the ambulance, but better the avoid the car crash all together.


Please provide examples of “easily copyable technology.”

Putting together a team of competent engineers, developers, etc and having them create something meaningful is hard enough as it is. Trying to copy someone else’s tech doesn’t lower the bar all that much.


You mean where a technology was stolen then reproduced, impacting the inventing businesses? I ran a quick brave search and came up with a few articles about knock offs[0][1][2].

There are myriad of other examples, or different scenarios where an NDA or non-compete failed, and another company just puts out a product faster and cheaper. Happens with software, hardware, and of course business processes.

[0] https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/amusing-knockoffs-popular-tech...

[1] https://www.buzzfeed.com/alannaokun/30-knockoff-products-tha...

[2] https://www.liveabout.com/hilarious-knock-off-brands-4767601


I see a bunch of probably unsuccessful knock offs.

I don’t see any out there that indicates they beat the original idea to the market by way of breached NDA or non-compete.


If you are in the domain of easily-copied technology, you probably shouldn't be building a startup around it, because there are very few barriers to entry for someone else to do the same and eat your lunch or at least cream off some customers without ever having paid for the R&D behind whatever the anchor is.


Ok sure. Better for me - weak competitors.


What would make a competitor weak, exactly?


This is justifying it.


Not everyone wants all the information and with many business plans, knowing the full version might be confusing to people working on today's stuff.

I advocate balancing full transparency (I certainly don't mean to hide any info!) with a culture that can create a time and place for conversations that might go beyond today's work.


I rarely find the "people will be confused by full transparency" line very convincing. To me it seems like there is some other, unstated reason to be less transparent - because confusion is easily remedied by prioritizing certain information while making the rest just accessible if someone wants to look.


Here's a non-conspiratorial reason: many engineers are not used to the uncertainty involved in day to day business negotiations and sales, and allow themselves to be stressed out what they see how the sausage is made. The reality is that lots of deals fall through, and that is normal. But if someone hasn't had a front row seat to that, they start wondering "are we failing?", "am I not doing a good enough job?", "is our product a failure?" etc etc.

I say this as someone who leads a team that handles the promotion and enablement of engineers into a role where they have a lot more visibility into sales and strategy, and have learned that they really need to have someone reassure them until the point that they realize that things are working out just fine.

That being said, I'm not sure of the wisdom of inflicting that stress on employees that don't have a need to see the Backoffice negotiations. Is there anything productive they can do, other then getting stressed?


> many engineers are not used to the uncertainty involved in day to day business negotiations and sales

7 person startup, right? Presumably they hired people who can wear lots of hats and who can deal with uncertainty.

> they start wondering "are we failing?", "am I not doing a good enough job?", "is our product a failure?" etc etc.

Good. Questions lead to answers where there's transparency. I'd hope that the people making the product would understand the product, the business, and the customers.


    7 person startup, right? Presumably they hired people who can wear 
    lots of hats and who can deal with uncertainty.
Not necessarily! Or not necessarily all of them. As a small startup you also don't have much money so may hire very junior people as that's all you can afford.

    Good. Questions lead to answers where there's transparency.
Only they don't always ask these questions - especially if they're junior. Sometimes they just keep it to themselves and worry instead of asking for clarification.


This. Additionally this should lead to more responsible decision making when questions like “is my re-architect gone wrong going to sink the company?” are pondered at all levels. This could lead to more stress sure but if someone can’t handle it probably best to go work at big corp.


If you work for a company so small that it's possible to have that transparency, the assumption that your job is safe should never have entered your mind. Startups that small are always a risk. Anyone joining a company like that must know that going in. Making sure people are aware of that risk is part of full transparency.


This is some very SV-centric view. That kind of transparency is possible with up to ~50 employees and plenty of businesses in the 10-50 person range are stable enough you can assume your job is safe. Not everywhere is searching for PMF-to-hyperscale.


My first real job was at a company in Pennsylvania with a few dozen employees. They laid off half their staff and implemented mandatory overtime. Many of my college friends that never left the area lost their jobs during the pandemic working for exactly the kinds of companies you describe. Every five to ten years of my adulthood has been marked with economic downturn that overwhelmingly shutter small businesses. What kind of stability is that?


In corpspeak of companies I've worked for, "this will cause confusion" is a codephrase for "we want to prevent someone complaining and making a fuss about shadier parts of our work".

It's the ultimate "let's hide this because we know people won't like it" phrase.


It's not necessarily about anything shady though, it can just as easily be legitimate differences of opinion, too many cooks in the kitchen, bikeshedding, or landgrab concerns.


You are right, I'm a bit cynical here. But that's what makes the phrase brilliant - it can be used for both and it's hard to figure out which one it is on the spot.


How did you verify this was the case every time you heard it?


What sort of information could cause confusion in the workplace, exactly?

Excluding private HR data obviously.


You go from focusing on executing a well defined strict set of tasks that closely fit your brag worthy skills to pondering a partially defined set of fuzzy "more important" goals that poorly fit your skills while unsure if your noob input would either make you look like an idiot or be very valuable.


The problem is that it's very hard to convey subtlety & uncertainty. Sometimes the truth is "we may go in one of these 3 ways so we have to cover our bases to be able to go in either once we do know" but people (especially programmers) want to hear "we will do exactly x and it will not change in the short term".

EDIT: I think this is a good way of phrasing it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32630650


I also used to think this way, until I tried being fully transparent with my team. There really are people whose mindset is 100% "what should I do?" and never "what are we doing?" I think the mistake is assuming it correlates with seniority or skill or something; it seems to be independent of both.

On the other hand, I'd never want a "what should I do?" person as an early startup hire.


My experience has been that there are employees who don’t really want to understand the big picture and just focus on their work.

I have never seen transparency hurt the productivity of these employees. They know they can look and see the big picture any time, they just don’t bother to look:


"Transparency" means different things to different people. I suspect we agree, because my solution to the problem is to make it clear to everyone that they can ask me anything and I'll tell them everything I legally can.

But for some people "transparency" also means a more active communication of this information, and this definitely confuses some (other) people because they will consistently interpret "we want to do X" or "we are going to do X" as "I should, right now, do (sub-part of) X".


I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make between "what should I do" and "what are we doing". Are you talking about people making decisions that prioritize themselves over the company? People not being willing to go along with existing decisions? Big picture vs small picture? Something else?


Sounds like people who passively waits for orders before doing anything ("what should I do?") instead of actively seeking out and doing things that aligns with the team's current goal ("what are we doing [now]?").


> On the other hand, I'd never want a "what should I do?" person as an early startup hire.

This doesn't apply to tanks or healers, only dps. Playing tank as an infra person I would do my team a disservice if I didn't make myself available on a dime to unblock my team. Big picture is fine for the planning meetings but on small teams I'm usually the only one, I have a bunch of cooldowns to keep track of, and don't always have the context because I have a separate workstream that has to telegraph out ahead of the dev work.

I am always asking what I should do that has the most impact for my devs.


Healers don't go around asking who needs healing, they see low health and prioritize. That is not asking "what should I do?", that is being proactive about the needs of the team.


Two points to that:

* Looking for people who caught aggro and getting out ahead of it is the bulk of my work. It's how I prioritize my workstream. The problem, and where the metaphor breaks down, is that I'm not omnipotent or have Grid2. If my devs don't tell me their pain points or I don't pull it out of them by asking what deliverables they would like to see out of me I would miss out lots of higher priority items than what I can see.

* The whole reason I'm on a team is because I have a specialized skillset and am but one stakeholder among many who want things from me. I will never run out of stuff to bring to planning but ultimately it's a group discussion about what I should do next. For larger companies s/me/the infra team.


This framing is extremely stupid and misses the point entirely.


That's pretty uncharitable of you. I am an infra person myself and while I appreciate the parent's point about making themselves available to pick up other things on a dime, I was trying to point out that you can also proactively identify needs and address them as an infra person, often in ways that can be applied to other teams and that this is very much not asking for what they should be doing.


Independently of the framing being stupid, that anyone thinks this is about an infra person being available to unblock a dev team or not is a perfect example of the confusion that can happen when "what should I do?" people get "what are we doing?" context.


> To me it seems like there is some other, unstated reason to be less transparent

Hiring, mostly. If you hire people that don't want, care, or are able to understand the full picture, the transparency won't pay off. But at small sizes, you generally want to hire people that both can and are eager to understand the whole picture.


If you have cash and you're transparent, your employees are likely to ask for it if you have a personal relationship with them.

I would say this is frequently even the case for big picture employees.

I'm saying this also as the lowest compensated person at my company for ~5 years.

To me it's more of an ideal world vs real world. Ideally you can share everything, in reality the outcome is likely to have a negative impact on both employee satisfaction and profit. Ie most likely giving employees a raise and them still thinking they aren't getting enough due to them seeing the big $ in the bank.

My preferred approach is budget level (we can spend x on y, I am open to your ideas) and number light executive summary (we have x months runway, not we have y in the bank). You can also give someone a smaller piece of transparency and see how they react if you think the employee could be someone with the skill set to manage a budget in the future.


We have plenty of money in the bank and our company is profitable. I’ve employed over 100 people during our 13 years of business. Not once have I ever had an employee say “hey man, I noticed you guys have more than the bare minimum level of working capital in the bank! How about you give me some?” Never.

If you were telling everyone you were broke, asking them to believe in the mission and endure low pay for the cause, and then it leaks out that you have plenty of cash, then yeah, I can see this question coming up.


My team is all well compensated, above top 5 US metro average, full remote and all highly technical.

It's surprising to me that out of 100 people no one asked for a raise after seeing a pool of money, although there's a lot of industries and types of employees out there.

It's a smart thing to do from the employee perspective-- I would do the same in their shoes, I don't hold it against them, I'm actually a big fan of ambitious employees, and I've granted their requests (maybe not the full value of their ask, but at least part) every time.

Your mileage may vary.


I just don’t understand that point of view.

Why aren’t employees at Apple asking for a piece of their massive cash horde?

If the only thing keeping an employee from asking or demanding they be given some of the companies property is the knowledge that property exists then you probably don’t want them in your company.


They don't frame it as “hey man, I noticed you guys have more than the bare minimum level of working capital in the bank! How about you give me some?”

It's a "coincidence" that occurs a short time period after seeing the information.


I don't relate to this. It seems like there may be a lack of understanding of or alignment on the long term path if this is a problem. I'm at a very transparent fairly early stage company right now and when I see how much money we have in the bank, I think "that's great news for our roadmap and long term path to profitability or further investment", not "how can I get me more of that sweet cash".


My company would widely be considered as stable, I'm personally 100% long term on our company. So it's past the "great news for our roadmap and long term path to profitability or further investment" phase. Although we're not massive either (few mil, rapid growth). Also bootstrapped from $300, so I could see it being different for venture funded situations.

Different companies/team compositions might have different best paths.

It's more "why are you hiring someone, when you could give everyone a bigger bonus" vibes. Where my goal is to say, give 2x the bonus in the future via the hire instead, but an employee could justifiably, for their own reasons, want more money today.

I'm saying that^ in the context, of, in my opinion, big picture employees as well.

I agree there's sometimes misalignment, everyone has their own goals/aspirations/career, and they sometimes aren't the same as the company goal/timeline. At the end of the day, that doesn't mean that they aren't capable of making valuable contributions or that we don't want to support their goals. That is ok, it's impossible to be everyone's everything.


Yeah this makes sense. I still think it might make more sense to be transparent, and also capable of having those conversations with the team about why people are being hired instead of bonuses being juiced. Maybe you're right that it would be bad for morale, but I feel like owners / executives should be able to tell that story compellingly.


> "why are you hiring someone, when you could give everyone a bigger bonus"

Or even "we just invoiced $5k for that project, I didn't get $5k, that seems unfair". Some people find it difficult to see all the different places that gross revenue has to go in order to keep the lights on and the wheels turning.


In my experience, people that actively don't want full info are usually not the same people who are interested in being early employees at a startup.


> knowing the full version might be confusing to people working on today's stuff.

Are those really the sort of people you want joining your <10 member startup?


Yeah, I’d agree with you and say absolutely not.


You obviously don't have to force people to care about it. Just share the information. They can ignore it if they like. I have no idea why you think anyone would find this sort of information confusing.


Yeah, this is an extremely weird take.


Sometimes "the full version might be confusing" is the same as "I haven't done a good job of explaining the full version," whether that's the roadmap for a company or a department or even just a team.


I think ‘don’t firehose them with all your startup’s problems’ (or: use common sense and follow professional and conversational norms) is built into OP’s point. I don’t even think you’re disagreeing.


If they're confused you've hired the wrong people


> If they're confused you've hired the wrong people

If they think their people will be confused, they don't trust their people.

That's not necessarily the same thing as hiring the wrong people.


I have never had anyone become negatively confused by our transparency.

They ask for clarification, you provide it, and they are that much more effective.


With a bigger company, you need to manage communications. This is a huge tax to pay. Defer it as long as possible.


Here are things that I would consider significantly more important than wanting to pump up employees by giving them information on partnerships:

- making sure your business model is viable

- involving employees in the software development process so they understand the user's perspective when developing the product

- paying people fairly

- helping employees structure work/life balance

- having clear and scoped value streams to prevent undue burden on the organization

- rigorously test business assumptions on an ongoing basis

- leading by example through being a decent human and treating others humanely

While information is power, secrets are not what makes a company valuable. Corporate espionage is trivial these days -- you can't stop people from talking. Nowadays, the best competitive advantage is execution. If you can execute well on the basics, you'll blow 95% of the competition out of the water because it takes a certain kind of person to cultivate talent. Your competition is only human, and they naturally want to cut corners, which is why they rely on mind games, or what some might call _sales_.

Still, it seems polite to answer your question about the effects of pumping up your team with info on upcoming partnerships, so I will despite the fact that I think you're coming at it from the wrong angle. Ask yourself why would they care about this information you're providing? If they do seem like they care, either:

- they stand to gain directly from this partnership or

- they're putting on a performance for social and political reasons or

- you hired employees who fail to reason properly, in which case you have bigger problems than their enthusiasm

If you want to provide more context without giving away too much info, please feel free to. Otherwise, I hope this answers your question.


Your explanations for why employees at an early stage startup might care about upcoming business deals seem to be missing the obvious one to me, that you’ve employed people who are thinking about the business as a whole rather than their tiny slice of the picture. The single most vital thing in an early stage startup is acquiring customers, and these deals are how that’s done, why wouldn’t one of seven employees at the company want to know about how the business is doing?

I’d go far as to say if early stage employees aren’t engaging with every part of the business you’ve employed the wrong people because at that stage of the game there isn’t space for people who just sit in their box and don’t venture out of it.


It's not beneficial to have every single person at the company thinking about the business as a whole. Now more than ever, we live in an age of specialization and it's counterproductive for all the people at the company to be thinking about the business as a whole. That is why there are departments, teams, and other groupings with discrete responsibilities: the separation of responsibilities and focus on small, manageable areas of responsibility helps people do a great job, efficiently.

This is true even with a company that's just starting, because there are way too many aspects of running a company for a single person to contemplate, let alone do efficiently or well.


thinking about =\= working on

I can learn about my company’s deal flow and benefit from that without needing to spend six hours in Quickbooks

It’s good for me to know the feature I’m building is important to a prospective customer who has an emphasis on security, even if I don’t sit on a call with them


I would argue that the specialization you’re referring to is what causes very many early stage startups to fail. Before you’ve found product market fit, you need everyone to be thinking about the whole product, even if they’re not working on the whole product.

Also, give “Range” a read. It’s a fantastic book and may help change your mind.


Thank you for the book recommendation.

Many early-stage startups fail because they fail to find a good product-market fit, or because they fail in marketing and sales, which are much harder to get right. I very much doubt that poor information sharing by the founders about the state of the business with rank and file (which is what is implied in the question here) causes disasters.

Later-stage startups often fail because managing growth is a supremely difficult skill, and if everyone is not rowing in the same direction or if there are strategic missteps, the growth engine sputters. Absence of growth is death in our industry. Sharing too much information at this stage may be counterproductive if the company is still trying to make unit economics work, improving sales efficiency, or burning cash to fight an external competitor while scrambling to secure more. Many of these will just drive away many employees, who show up for the paychecks.


I agree on the latter point. The advice of be transparent applies much more to earlier stage companies.

Often, engineers and other employees have great ideas that lead to a development that changes your product or your market and helps you find fit. That can only happen if they both: a) have the info, and, b) care enough about the mission / company to think about it. That varied set of experiences gives you (the founder) a greater surface area to draw from when coming up with solutions.


Those departments, teams, and other groupings - none of which probably exist in a 7 person company, by the way - have to interact with each other.


Yes, and trust plays a huge role in that more than anything else. Information sharing is unlikely to make a huge difference for a close-knit group that likely knows one another quite well to begin with.

Even in a 7-person company, there aren't many direct interactions between disparate functions that are called for, or even desirable, for that matter. Employees and founders/co-founders have massively different incentives and need for information. Some functions, such as HR, actually rely on keeping a lid on certain types of information to function properly!


> why wouldn’t one of seven employees at the company want to know about how the business is doing?

If the early-stage employees have significant equity in the company, then they'll be very interested in how the company is doing. If their upside is paycheck, bonus and equity proportional to their salary (as you'd find in an established company), then one employer is as good as another.

I think the question of how much information to share is heavily dependent on how loyal the employees are to the company, and loyalty is almost entirely a matter of how much equity they hold (and more specifically how much equity they hold relative to the founders.)


In my experience loyalty is almost entirely a matter of who feels trusted and valued... in which sharing information freely (or appearing to) is a major factor. Especially when that information is directly relevant to them and their own financial security - even if you're just making wages it's still nice to know that your employer is stable.


I doubt this is true. I can believe that it's a good idea to give people equity at the margin. But in my experience loyal people are loyal. People who put themselves first put themselves first. I think there's very little correlation between how good people are and how good they think they are.

Take a good, valuable or loyal employee and treat them badly and you can probably lose them. Take a bad, incompetent or disloyal employee and no matter how much you compensate them I suspect you can not change them.


I think the motivation of early employees can be quite different from what you propose. I can speak to my own motivation:

Knowing what partners are in the pipe lets me contribute to landing the customer in the first place. I can work with exec to team on how we can improve the product to appeal to the customer. I can provide costing estimates to see if the customer is worth acquiring.

A big part of startup compensation is tied up in equity. If there is no insight in to the business health, I am not able to accurately value my employment.

One of the opportunities in a startup is in learning how you might eventually run your own business. Learning about customer acquisition, about corporate structure and strategy, and about fundraising are all things I expect to be exposed to in exchange for much lower compensation.


Perhaps they care cause early stage startups are hard and it can feel like a Sisyphean task, so encouragement / interest from outside parties helps drive their motivation.


This is great advise - if everyone could be a businessman, all of us would be and nobody would be an employee.

Employees only care about their salary / stock options and professional growth and fulfilment. If an employee isn't confident in your ability to manage the business, they will jump ship (which is their right to do so, just as it is yours to fire them when the business falters). And so it is best to keep them focused and motivated on the job they have to do. There maybe some employees that you think have partnership or managerial potential. You should be confident you can groom them, and thus can share some business information with them and observe how they make the best use of that to help you grow your company and / or advance your goals.


I disagree. Startup employees care about making a good product, too. That's the rule when you join a startup: you won't have the highest salary, and maybe your startup bankrupts in 6 months, but you get to have more impact.

If you don't want the risk and don't want to care, go in an established company.

But that all means that you should be transparent with startup employees, because many decisions depend on that at all level. If you hire employees who believe that they have infinite time and money to get the product to work, then you probably did not hire well, IMO.


Sure, employees should care about making a good product, and should be provided all relevant info they need for that. They however do not need to know everything about how the business is run. Their focus should be on making the product.


I would argue that it is often relevant for the technical employees to have an idea about how business is going: who wants the product, how they (intend to) use it, and also who discussed a partnership and eventually did not go with the product.

As you said, not everyone can be into business. Which also means that not everyone can be technical. Who says that the business people are good at translating requirements from potential clients to technical employees? Isn't it likely that the technical people know more about what is technically possible?

If you share too much with your employees, what's the worse case? They leave with that data? So what? If the whole value of the startup is that the founder knows a bunch of business numbers, anyway it doesn't sound very promising.

However, if you don't share enough, maybe you miss very good solutions that they would come up with if they had access to all the data. Worse: if your interpretation of what the customers want and what is technically possible is slightly wrong, maybe you will send your whole startup in the wrong direction. All that just because you thought you knew what your technical people needed to make a good product.


Have you run a startup? Are you a senior dev? Have you managed a team?

I'm not asking to be rude, but if you are 45 having run a couple of startups (even if they both failed) I'd be really interested in this opinion and what experiences got you to it. If, however, you're still at college and this is "pure philosophy" it's of much less interest.


Yes. Two. One I quit (no technical challenges, and partners were happy with business as it was), and the other I was edged out of by the partners as we didn't share the same values and vision. The only caveat is they are in India which has a very risk-averse work culture.


My experience kicks in quite a bit north of where you are, but for what it’s worth, I joined a company as employee ~150 that practiced near total transparency on everything.

We went public, are now north of 8,000 employees, and it’s still nearly as transparent as when I joined - financials, product metrics, anonymized employee trends/HR data, major decisions… the list goes on but pretty much everything is done in the open with only a handful of exceptions.

I can’t think of a situation where that level of transparency was a hindrance to the company or regretted by our founders as far as I know… in fact the opposite, I think it creates a culture of ownership and makes people feel valued and respected.

As an employee, now that I’ve experienced having that level of access, I’ll never join a place that doesn’t offer a similar level of transparency.

Edit: Adding a couple thoughts based on some comments I’m seeing. I really believe that restricting information to specific people or keeping it from people who “might not understand it” is wrongheaded.

If people are interested and curious, help them learn. If they aren’t, who cares? When there was feedback about wanting to better understand financials, our CFO did an hour long walkthrough of SaaS economics. When new legislation forced operational changes, our general counsel walked us through not only what we needed to do differently but how he approached his job and situations like this. People come to work (especially at startups) to stretch and to learn, regardless of their role or level.


How does that level of transparency for a public company not lead to insider trading?


They can put in place some things to mitigate/prevent this. One example that comes to my mind is the use of trading windows for employees. I.e: you can buy company stocks only during some specific time windows announced at the start of the fiscal year.


> One example that comes to my mind is the use of trading windows for employees.

But when you have access to info that could conceivably impact the stock price if revealed, you cannot do any trading even during those trading windows. That's why the top execs can typically (always, I think) only trade via pre-planned schedules.

I've been placed on the insider list in public companies when involved in secret projects (future acquisitions, typically) and that means zero trading for the duration of the project regardless of when employee trading windows open or close.


This is what I have seen at Amazon.


Doesn't Amazon do blackout periods for most grunt-level employees?

Usually only executive-level and higher employees have access to information considered material to the business trajectory at large. Emphasis on usually; all that boring bigcorp training covers the ins and outs.


Yep, they only allow trading during specific times.


most folks don't want to go to prison?


> We went public, are now north of 8,000 employees, and it’s still nearly as transparent as when I joined - financials, product metrics, anonymized employee trends/HR data, major decisions

I greatly prefer total transparency and have pushed for it when in situations that I have a say, but I'm curious how that can be achieved in a public company? Once it's public, a lot more regulations apply, many of which force reducing transparency.


Nice! I'd love to learn more about this. Would you mind sharing the name of this company to be able to study the case further? This could be inspiring. (potentially via hn[at]dominici.io or DM @senguidev on Twitter if not possible publicly?)


Exactly. Thinking back the transparent places correlate to the places I felt more at home. I only just made that connection now. It is a way more interesting all hands meeting in a transparent company too. All though the opaques tended not to have them.


Just wait till you have a layoff.


If you can't think of a level of transparency that was a hindrance to the company, then the company is not fully transparent.

No company has ever had 100% smooth sailing.


Sharing the current state of things is good. It will be stressful (for everyone) at times but at 7 people, they're invested personally and professionally.

Sharing things that are in-progress is harder. I'd recommend attaching timelines and probabilities. Basically saying "this should happen in the next X days" and "we're trying this idea, it may not work but we'll know in roughly Y days."

There are two huge upsides to a small, tight team:

a) there are LOTS of decisions made every day in every area. If people know what else is going on, they should be able to make better decisions. aka "This doesn't make sense to do for one customer.. but if there are 4 others in the pipeline, it's way more compelling."

b) people with varying strengths and areas of focus will not have your blindspots and perspectives and will see/understand things that you don't. Lean into that and you'll get a better solution.

Background: I was employee ~25 at Twilio, launched Okta's API security product, and am currently employee ~20 at ngrok.


"What if we train our people and they leave?" "What if we don't and they stay?"

Forward-looking entrepreneurs are building in public. In my opinion, sharing news and information with core team is overall a positive investment.

If there's a lack of trust, maybe, there are bigger problems in the startup to fix?


Not investing into your people is a sure fire way to be ineffective and signal to people that they’re not worth training and should leave. Couldn’t agree more with you.

I have made the claim in support of transparency before that it matters little if even my competitor would be able to get ahold of my road map as an extreme example of transparency. My forecast is that sure, they might zig or zag a bit differently but the reality is that their road map is already full of the things that they need to build next as well as their best ideas. They are my competitor, and generally they are going to consider their ideas superior to my own, so why would you expect them to change and copy my road map?


succinct and accurate, transparency triumphs, though there are some details that should be kept among a few until the deal is done. It definitely depends on the size of the company


The best way to ensure your employees wont be honest or transparent with you is to not be honest or transparent with them.

Or maybe to put it a bit more harshly: You're not important enough to be hiding details

Be open, honest, and realistic. Say what you hope will come to be as a result of your actions. Be clear when things aren't set in stone.

Be transparent so that they can all work towards the same goals. If you keep them in the dark, they wont have any intuition on how to take initiative. Let positive results pump them up.


+1 to this comment.

Before I founded my company, I worked for another startup that wasn’t very transparent. It was not a healthy/empowering environment.

Now, when dealing with things like partnerships, customers, and finance (runway, burn, revenue, fundraising, etc) I ask myself “what type of company would I want to work at?” and I always lean towards transparency.

Having said that, this needs to be done carefully. Instead of pumping everyone up about a potential partnership that could fall flat, you should try to be realistic and objective about it. “I’m really excited about a potential partnership with X. Even though this partnership will require we invest some resources doing Y, I see the possible benefits to the company as Z. From my perspective, this is a good opportunity for us. This isn’t finalized so I’ll keep you up to date on our progress. Let me know if you have any concerns or questions about this.”


> Having said that, this needs to be done carefully. Instead of pumping everyone up about a potential partnership that could fall flat, you should try to be realistic and objective about it. “I’m really excited about a potential partnership with X. Even though this partnership will require we invest some resources doing Y, I see the possible benefits to the company as Z. From my perspective, this is a good opportunity for us. This isn’t finalized so I’ll keep you up to date on our progress. Let me know if you have any concerns or questions about this.”

Yes, exactly this.

It's what I meant by:

> Be open, honest, and realistic. Say what you hope will come to be as a result of your actions. Be clear when things aren't set in stone.

Just be transparent with what you're trying to accomplish, what the risks are, what you're uncertain about, where things are in the process, what the next few steps are, and what contingencies there are.


You should definitely share information relevant to the employee’s decision to join and continue working at your company. It’s imperative to build trust with employees so that they know they can take your word.

The challenge for many is that it’s easy to be transparent during the good times, but much harder to be honest when things aren’t going well. You need to choose a level of transparency that you can stick with through good times and bad.

I will caution against taking HN advice unilaterally on these topics. HN comments are heavily skewed toward employees rather than founders and the advice you get will not necessarily consider the needs of founders and a company at all. Anecdotally, I have worked at a startup that tried to share everything with employees in a fully transparent manner and it backfired spectacularly. A couple of the employees used their information as leverage to work their way into high ranking roles at a competing company, taking some key customer relation knowledge with them. The roles didn’t actually work out for them at the new company. They were unqualified, the company just used them to extract their knowledge and let them go after a year. However, the damage was done. The information they took wasn’t at all necessary to be open to the employees and didn’t really benefit them behind a sense of full transparency for everyone. Don’t assume that your employees are always going to be in your court, especially as you scale past the intimate team size. It only takes one person acting in a selfish manner to try to leverage your transparency for their personal gain. Be at least somewhat careful about sharing information that doesn’t directly relate to employees making decisions about their own jobs at your company.


Don’t worry about leaks. At this stage, nobody else cares about you.

But what you should really worry about is risk appetite. Your employees will have different appetite for risk to you. That’s why you’re a founder and they are not.

That’s neither good nor bad. It just is.

Be conscious if this when you share things. Even if you can control the message, different people will respond to events differently.

For example:

- You have 6 months of expenses worth of of cash in the bank, and you are spending 110% of MRR each month. Is that plenty of runway, or not much at all? The answer depends on risk appetite.

- You decide to bid on a contract that’s way beyond your current product’s feature set. If you win the pilot you’ll need to build a stack of features fast and might neglect other customers while you do. Is that exciting or awful? Depends who you ask.

- You turn down an acquisition offer. If you accepted, the other 6 folks could have each put a deposit on a nice house. But you believe you could be 10x bigger than the offer. Will everyone else share this belief or would they rather cash out? Depends on their… you guessed it.


> Don’t worry about leaks. At this stage, nobody else cares about you.

Actually, it’s better to pick a level of transparency that can be maintained well beyond this stage and stick with it. If a company starts out fully transparent and then walks back the transparency later, employees will become suspicious.

Much better to choose a sustainable level of transparency and demonstrate consistency over the years. Don’t play fast and loose early and then force yourself to overcorrect later.


Okay, I agree with that. My point was more that leaks are a minor issue relative the one I raised.


I would share things that are true now, but be careful about sharing things that may happen in the future.

For future partnerships, the real risk isn't that your competitors find out. The real risk is that the partnership falls through and your employees feel demoralized.

So I think it's fine and good to share information about the discussions your currently having with bigger companies, but less of a good idea to preview the possible future relationship.


This is good advice for when you're larger, but I'd still share it. At 7 people, they should be involved. If anything it's an opportunity to earn their trust and show them you're in this together.


> The real risk is that the partnership falls through and your employees feel demoralized.

Demoralized is one thing, but also if enough partnerships are falling through they might get the sense that you’re not a good business person. Which may also be an accurate take away that you as a leader don’t want to hear/realize about yourself.

Without having been the leader of a startup I’d say the best thing to do is treat yourself like anyone else in the team ie the expectation of equal sharing back and forth. Help the team help you find out what your strengths are and what your weaknesses are.

Don’t try to hide your weaknesses or hope to get better at it. Especially if trying to hide/improve weaknesses are taking away from showcasing strengths. Instead get your team to hire in people to fill your weaknesses and learn from them. Meanwhile, double down on your strengths and continue the transparency and working as a team member.


I've been in both camp, founder and employee in a startup.

From my experience, sharing is mostly bad.

Very often, you'll be tempted to share good news too early, and very often it won't materialize (startup life is a roller coaster)

This alone will erode the morale of your team.

But there is an other factor, many humans, when presented with data and problems, tend to at least think about solutions, and they dislike being ignored.

Their solutions and ideas might be good, but they are very often half-baked and everyone has different ideas and priorities.

In practice, when people are asking for information, they implicitly are asking for power.


You didn’t finish your post - if information is power, how much should be shared?


It depends, power can be shared but you can't easily take it back, and contrary to many things power is zero sum.

So, this is an important choice.

Only share what is needed for the task. But of course you can talk about your vision for the company, your ethics, long term goals etc.


This hits the nail on the head.


Different perspective, more about individual enablement vs company risk:

- Share info that enables independent decision making and actions so your team can help recruit new teammates, sell to customers, choose designs, and at a personal level, make personal financial decisions. If not, you're hobbling your team, who are your main shot at success. Just be clear that info is internal.

- Level anything forward looking, good or bad. Relatively few people understand that good sales requires significant loss rates, what a slog fundraising typically is, etc, so when some big lead doesn't convert or a process takes awhile, bigger issue is avoiding unnecessary heartache & whiplash. So share progress good & bad, but always level it. Partnerships, key hires, leads, VCs, talks, releases: celebrate real wins and analyze losses, but it's a marathon, so don't pump people up too much on the barrage of things outside of your control. The sharing is mostly dependent on the experience of the individual receiver.


At that size, share everything. But also share all realistic outcomes, including what failure cases might look like. It's more about earning trust than "pumping" anyone up.


At Stream with our team of 140 I like to share runway, burn, cash balance, revenue, burn multiple and CAC payback.

Historically Stream has grown rapidly and the equity grants have been very significant compared to the base salaries. (who knows what the future brings, but hopefully that trend continues).

So a significant part of our team's compensation is equity, I think it's only fair to be transparent about those topics. Also important to share the last round valuation and the revenue, since many startups that raised at too high prices are currently deeply underwater on their employee's equity.

We do lunch and learns on equity, evaluating startups etc. That is important since most people don't have prior experience with evaluating startups.

A friend of mine didn't exercise his stock options when he was early stage at a company that had an exit above 1B. I think that shows how hard it is to evaluate how startups are doing. But sharing the data is a good starting point.


Why didn’t your friend exercise his options?


We have a company scorecard that shows sales funnels, bookings, production numbers, cash and collections info, etc, all completely open to any employee at the company.

A soldering technician on our team can literally see how we’re doing on cash and collections at any time.

We have company-wide updates 2-4 times a month where we brief all employees on important ongoings for 30 minutes.


I would never join a startup that didn't have complete transparency. I've been fucked by startups before where YC founders held all the information and then sold the company, enriching themselves but leaving the scraps for the employees. The next startup I made sure that the founders were very transparent and honest and trusted us with maximum information. Even though it didn't take off, I still enjoyed being a part of their team so much more.

Even unicorns that I worked for, the CEO shared very detailed and transparent information with employees even as the company got extremely large, which I appreciated.


I can give you the opposite perspective: our CEO shares very little, and often far too late for us to be effective. It’s led to several resignations over the last year, increases stress, and encourages burnout as we all see a heavy emotional investment with little payoff. Frankly, it sucks being in a professional position with the potential (and job description) to direct operations, but to be in reality one of many assistants to a single bottleneck.

I realize that this may be a common arrangement, but I would suggest that it is not the best model for anyone involved, and would encourage you to avoid it.


Give them as much as they want to know.

Some folks don't want distractions. They don't care about the state of things that don't directly pertain to their job. They just want to build stuff.

Other people, like myself, want to know everything.

If you want honesty and transparency from your employees, you have to create a culture of it. Which means it starts with you.


There's two categories of responses on this page: 1. people who have never ran a business and been fully transparent 2. people who've done it and recommend selective transparency because of the consequences

haha


Ah yes, the wisdom of MBAs and other career managers, which is working out so well elsewhere :P


The response trend seems to be based on personal experience rather than MBA/career manager.

I'm neither an MBA nor a career manager (started biz out of college with $300, 5 years lowest paid employee, few mil run rate now, no investors) and my transparency experience has been both positive and negative. So I only do transparency that (I think) leads to positive outcomes now.


That’s an awesome achievement. Congratulations.


While transparency is no doubt a good thing, you may have to consider following points

- The overall structure of your team and who will benefit from which information. - Should you share everything at one go or defer the announcement (Important so that target audience is not overwhelmed but should be able to grasp what you are sharing) - Create a bi-weekly or monthly update program and then identify what and how much should be shared - Majority of the people are interested in how the information will benefit them (most of the time whats the direct impact on the money they will get), so don't be disappointed in case you share a good SI partnership news and no one is excited. - Staggered approach is always better. It indicates that company is on growth path. - Be sure to check legal clauses before you disclose something well before it materializes. - In addition to above points, there are also situations wherein deals/partnerships have been revoked after everything was signed, disclosing such announcement too early also creates bad impact when things don't work out.

There is no silver rule about what you should do, but don't spill everything as most of it will be either ignored or people will still find ways to criticize. There are very few who will be excited about the future of a company than their personal gains.


I don't think I'd worry about the risk of them leaving (unless you have some highly lucrative IP, and as a fintech you probably don't). The thing with sharing potential deals is mostly just they will usually fall through / not happen, so do you want them to ride the ups and downs with you? I'd probably share while keeping their expectations realistic, cause otherwise it can feel like working in a vacuum.


Yeah this is the biggest issue to me. Don't voluntarily give out news that might not come to fruition. Crushing high hopes is worse than not giving them in the first place.

If a particular employee seems keen to learn more, and you think they might benefit from knowing, you could privately let them know there are tentative things you're pursuing, and give an example or two, while being cautious with them and telling them it might fall through. But no need to announce things that haven't happened yet.


I’d default to transparency and share things that can be useful for people to know, consider not sharing things that can be distracting.

Customer or partnership deals can be useful to share because the team can help with those but talking about future fundraising might be just distracting and the team might not be able to do anything.

We do monthly business review with the whole company (25ppl now), going through growth, revenue, cash flow, customers etc.


I'm also in the full transparency boat with two exceptions:

1) if the partnership requires NDA or another type of secret/security then keep that limited.

2) many deals fall through, so I choose to delay worthless detail on those till the deals are more mature.


I'm the CEO of an early stage startup, about ~10 in size. I share everything.

Cash in bank, runway, burn. How our products are doing. What's coming next.

Maybe things change as you grow, I'm not sure. But for now, my teammates are early believers in what we're trying to do and the least I can owe them for taking that risk is transparency.


Transparency is great, and I think the main balance that might be missing in this context is how much frequency/latency there is between events that are taking place. I see it more like a stock ticker. There are ups and downs, some big swings that happen at a micro scale, and then overall trends.

It’s good to identify how much frequency your team can handle and where to dial that in.

E.g. Monday: really hot lead, Monday afternoon: just got off call, lead upset about missing feature - not sure if deal will happen, Tuesday: contract sent. Wednesday: Lots of red lines, not sure if we can do this. Thursday: Deal signed. — This is very high frequency reporting with lots of ups and downs. It can be hard for a team to even focus with this amount of thrashing.

Another example: Monday: Prospective client, Next Monday: Contract won/lost, and these are the reasons.


This is about knowing your audience. Sales manager would want all this info. Engineer probably doesn’t. Same way sales person doesn’t need “looks like bug is fixed” “failed a CI test” “getting help from platform team” etc…. Just “the SSO bug you raised last week is now fixed”


With 7 people in the company, I would assume that you are close-knit in terms of trust. If that is not the case, then either you need to verify if there is trust or you have verified and there is some missing trust: I think this is underlying reason that you asked the question in the first place. I think this might present an opportunity for you to build trust.

Why I think you should share strategic information with your early employees? In my opinion, not sharing strategic partnerships to early employees misses the point of building trust with your early employees. Your early employees are in it for the experience of ups and down, and they will be benefit from both. Critical feedback from them is especially important at this time.

You will have situations where an employee or even a co-founder leaves, I think you have to be ready for that.


Be as open as possible.

The places I've worked that were basically "open books" and super transparent tended to be more successful than the more opaque places.

Largely because people felt they had more of a stake in it, felt more involved and engaged, and would bring more ideas/contacts/knowledge to the table, etc.

The more opaque places that practiced unnecessary levels of "need to know" tended to not work as well, as the company couldn't leverage its peoples experience, networks, etc as efficiently, and people generally work less well if they are kept in the dark.

Being open tends to create opportunities, and your employees can warn you about risks you might be missing.

Being closed? You lose that advantage.

A decent NDA and properly written contract will cover you if someone leaves.


Everything except for their own deepest fears and doubts. You really need to save those for co-founders who are as invested as you are.


There's no correct answer. I have tried both strategies. When push comes to shove employees and founders are not co-aligned. You can treat people really well and they will leave. You can treat people badly and they will stay. You can explain things until the cows come home but employees are not founders, they can't always be expected to see things in the same light, timeframes, or think at multiple levels of the business simultaneously. High-touch management doesn't scale. Eventually you will part ways. Protect the business, be transparent enough to engender trust, admit your mistakes, and always be fair to others.


There are very few cases in which outsiders with power will act on “intelligence” from a 7 person startup. You are like the government of Palau — nobody cares what you’re doing — your problems are much bigger than getting your stuff cloned.


I was the first hire at a company that grew to 5 people in total. I got told pretttty much everything, though usually after the fact. Business decisions I was sometimes asked for my input but with the knowledge that I was just providing my opinion rather than it being "a vote".

There are no secrets in a small company.

When we went under, I wondered how it was that we had run out of money. The boss was always transparent about cash - I was always able to look at the books, and I was aware things were getting grimmer by the week. In the last week or so he took me through everything. Lawyers are expensive :(


I don't work for an early-stage startup, however, the company I work for is early mid stage. They share everything except (annoyingly enough) individual employee compensation. They also share risks/opportunities in a very transparent way. Note that they share most of the data with the general public as well, which is quite unique for a company of any size, and likely the big reason we basically own our niche.


When you write "employee", what role is the employee in? Do they need to know so they can make good business and life choices? If not, it is just burdening them.

I definitely think that CxOs need to be aware of most of the things. I recently was asked to join a start-up in the C-suite, but had to turn it down. Too coy with details for my taste. If you trust me enough to invite me to take care of mission critical elements, do not hide things from me.

But, there is such a thing as over-sharing. Not every role is mission critical. If the role does not need the information to make business decisions there is no reason the share, in my opinion.

>Should I share info on upcoming behind-the-scenes partnerships, etc with employees to pump them up?

Will it directly impact their work? If so, share it with them. If not, what is "pump them up" mean? Are you looking for a Steven Ballmer presentation reaction?

I will presume you have an NDA and non-compete with all of your employees.


All of it. (the financials are what matter most) Check out “The Great Game of Business” which does a great job of explaining why.


I've seen everything shared really well.

Typically cash flow at a high level is shared, the KPIs are shared (revenue per employee, annual run rate, deals being worked on, etc).

As it scales then I've seen things being held closer to the chest... companies tend to learn that the people they've hired between the 500-1,500 headcount range are less family, more likely to leak things publicly... so then cards get held closer to the chest, more consideration is put into what is shared.

What I've never seen shared: cap table, who has what options, salaries. The latter two things are usually solved by whisper networks between staff, the former is the big one... without aspects of it one cannot really know whether their options are worth anything at all and how much they're getting, and for early employees (within the first couple of hundred) that's typically how they get screwed on negotiations or simply through inexperience/greed by founders.


You should share enough context that your employees have a good grasp of business goals and can shape and prioritize their own work to build value. You won't think of everything and you don't want to spend your time tracking all their work - they need to be able to make independent decisions that further your business.


It is helpful to think of all communication with employees using a lifecycle model. As the company grows in headcount and functions, the composition of a core team that has the ball keeps changing depending on the nature of the deals. It would be helpful to form some guidelines on what gets communicated when you form a core deal team. Obviously, when the deal reaches different milestones, you may want to communicate it to all employees. This includes both positive outcomes and negative outcomes (they both provide opportunities for organizational learning on what went right and what went wrong/could have been done differently).

It is important that employees feel they will get communication at the right time if the communication is relevant to them and not feel like they are being left out of the loop.

Also, be ready to give honest answers when there are followup questions.


At 200+ full time, I found being 100% transparent extremely difficult when lacking context (especially around cash in bank) because some took it as company was in bad shape, start looking for another job.

However due to the recent downturn, I found being transparent about the company's cash position, why/how we were making cuts, and my (founder) decision to take on debt instead of attempt to fundraise (equity) in this environment a rallying force because most of my staff have significant stock options and being effectively bootstrapped while surviving (almost thriving) right now is really exciting.

It also tamped down the seemingly endless requests for comp increases from earlier in the year as everyone shifted their priority to job preservation while realizing they have solid wfh careers.


I'd default to transparency - but that means also being up front about risks.

It's very nice to be able to say you have a partnership that is being discussed - it's less nice to "pump them up" on a partnership that's not a sure thing.

So if you disclose (and I think most times founders should) - disclose responsibly.

That means - don't bullshit them about how real the partnership is. If it's "Just in the discussion phase" (or frankly, anything other than a signed deal) make sure they know it's not a sure thing.

"We're working on a partnership with ____. We think it can provide some great opportunities, but it's not a done deal. We're still trying to figure out the details, and there's a chance it may not happen - but right now it's being discussed".


When I was joining my current team, founder shared with me what is their runaway and then added some details to back this up - how much money did they have in their bank account at the time, how much money do they burn each month, how much money do they earn each month. This was not the first startup I was working with so from business perspective I was not that much interested with other info he provided (like, that they have deep relationship with AWS, which they indeed have and it indeed helps a lot, not only from cloud services perspective but also from marketplace perspective).

I'd say it's good to keep balance, show people what risk are they taking by joining you and share whatever information you have to back this up.


What role do you want these early stage employees to have?

If you hide everything, that is consistent with having an unprivileged role at a risky enterprise where the employee should justly assume the worst - e.g. that the only compensation that is real is one that is cash-in-pocket, and that the job can end at any moment, as the company might be dead in the water, out of the runway already. That's not necessarily an obstacle, but that requires paying some premium (in cash, not equity) to justify these risks.

If you're open and trust the employees with realistic financial information, then the employees can trust the future of the company, to the extent that the information actually supports the notion that the future is there and not faked for pure PR.


As an employee of a post-seed, immediately-pre-series-a company, I've wondered if the cap table should always be public. It seems like hiding ownership is potentially highly deceptive, but I'm looking at this from the employee perspective....


As much as they'd like? For me personally after having been ice burnt by the kookaid I'd be very worried if there was hand waiving and cloudiness for things I actually want to understand and get details about. In that regards show me cap tables, show me who gets what kind of preferred vesting, what impact is future funding rounds going to have on my outcomes, what stories, I mean assumptions, are your valuations predicated on? Unlike founders afaik most employees don't have the ability to sell early stock and have to wait years and years for an exit. So full transparency is the least one can do to earn trust.


For this sort of situation, I'd always avoid any generic advice that isn't a "how to". "It depends on the team" really is the only generic info I'd share, since you still have to consider your situation.

The more professional and emotionally mature your team members are, the more I'd share. If a huge deal fails, juniors can be badly affected and will pull down morale, without much upside. On the other hand, experienced colleagues can catch early mistakes that could cost a lot more later.

Try to mentally simulate people in multiple situations and it'll be a lot clearer for you.


I walked away from a start-up and potentially a lot of money, largely due to lack of transparency.

I think the worst thing that can happen is that your employees stop trusting you. They're still on the payroll but they're there only until something better comes along.

Be careful with your answers to them when they ask for information you don't want to give out.

If it's confidential, say that straight out and explain why. If the employee doesn't understand it or feels you're being deceptive or not totally honest, accept that there now has been a breach of trust between you.


> Or is giving too much information ... risky if an employee leaves

What is your actual risk exposure here?

For most startups the existential threat isn't competitors, it's lack of traction. There's basically nothing that a competitor could find out that would substantial hurt the startup, especially nothing that they won't find out anyways.

There are obvious exceptions (e.g. you're a hedgefund and have a trading strategy which could be wiped out if someone bigger started exploiting the same opportunity), but they're called exceptions for a reason.


I run a media company. We are very transparent about our KPIs with employees. We only share things that have materialized. For example, we don't want to mislead about something that might happen especially in an early stage company where it's hard to estimate the accuracy of something happening.

I would never want to work at a company that is secretive about everything and thus we chose to be transparent.


Information hoarding leads to internal empire building. In a startup this is absolutely deadly. I've experienced this personally twice before learning my lesson to be careful surrounding this point.

Obviously there's some stuff which simply must be confidential, like HR stuff, as well as early stage negotiations. But otherwise the default should be transparency.


I think it probably depends a lot on your employees. Some might be really interested in what is going on and enjoy being in the loop. Some might have been burnt before so actively want to see signs of decay or lack of growth. Some are there for the tech, really dont care. If your staff is like the last group you're wasting your time doing presentations.


A small SaaS company I worked for in my early career used to have business notifications plugged in to our chat app (flowchat) and even provided read-only access their Stripe account so we could see how much impact we are creating on the business. I appreciated that kind of trust very much and always felt included in the company's vision.


Most up-voted comments seem to be of the opinion that companies should be fully open with their employees. Most companies I have seen do the opposite, they control information to a need to know basis. May be it's a result of where I am coming from.

Would be really grateful if anyone would share a list of companies that are fully open with their employees?


I don't know about fully open, but I think Buffer is an example of a company that shares unusually much. https://buffer.com/resources/revenue-dashboard/

There's some sort of list at https://openstartup.tm/ but I think a lot of companies listed there are open with only select pieces of info.

Both of these are about public sharing though. Employee sharing is trickier to know from the outside. Perhaps Valve Software because of the lack of hierarchy?


Here is a link to the actual dashboard:

https://buffer.com/transparent-metrics


I was employee #1 at a startup, the founder was actually a friend (not a close friend but a friend nonetheless) and was pretty transparent. That said over time I uncovered a few half-truths and one thing that was somewhat hidden from me. I started looking immediately and left within 6 months of joining.


Fellow cofounder here. Be totally open. With a team that small, you need everyone to be on the same page. Regardless of your roles on paper, the success of your venture depends on each and every person putting in everything they have and holding nothing back. Communication is key and definitely will help motivate everyone.


I have worked for small companies that shared virtually everything. It did not go well when senior people found out their bosses where making n times their salary, among other stuff. The lesson is that you should only share what you can afford to share. If you do share stuff, share it async instead of spamming meetings.


Anything less than all of it is a red flag.


Depends on what you mean by info - founders (me included) sometimes mistake dreams and wishes for sure facts. This can backfire spectacularly if the hype doesn’t pan out.

So like everyone else I say you should most definitely over-share but only once it passes facts check. Whatever that means for you & your company.


We did this for years at TMC and to good effect, the format was a monthly newsletter sent to all hands with sections for each part of the company (sales pipeline, past jobs, future jobs, lessons learned, finances). It was the glue that held us together across many years.


Why hide anything? Early employees should know they are taking a risk too. If they don’t know that going in, they aren’t a good fit. Share financials, risks, concerns, thoughts from the board (within reason), what has worked, what hasn’t, runway, customer feedback, etc.


If you trust them enough to work on your product at such a crucial time, then you should trust them enough to give them full transparency.

Siloing info rarely benefits anyone. At best it builds incompetence and distrust (lack of full picture), and at worst it dooms best laid plans.


Confidentiality should be agreed on in a sane manner.

That said - full strategic insight into the vision and what‘s done to achieve it and welcoming input will engage employees in a very productive way, but requires free flow of information.

Usually, the benefits outweight the problems _by far_.


Being one of 7 employees, I would expect a high level of transparency. That doesn't mean you should force it down their throats, but I would want access to as much info as possible given the risks of working for a company that early-stage.


If a large enough chunk of the information, that happens to be what you'd give to your employees to be frank about the direction your start-up is going, is stuff that your competitors can use, then why aren't you making these employees sign an NDA?


You're a fintech startup. Your employees have already formed their own financial models of your company, and if you do not share info, they will plug in their own worst-case estimates, and leave if their models show bad numbers.


Err on the side of transparency, but also just ask how much they want to know (maybe during 1-on-1s). Information can create extra individual stress, and some people would rather just be shielded until bad news hits.


Share all the hard facts: who's who, capital raised, cash flow, competitive landscape, committed roadmap, etc.

You can withhold future plannings to yourself unless you need inputs.


A good leader is like a strict but loving parent. If you model yourself around that, you’ll know the answer.


Everything.

The missed opportunities of not sharing is way greater than any misuse of the information.


Perhaps. My experience has been that people didn’t want to hear the ups and downs. Bad sales month? People start fearing for their job. It will depend on your team, but remember not all employees are entrepreneurs. Sharing downs and struggles will cause personal stress for many of them. I think most companies are closed info by default, and after running a company in both modes, I understand why.


Reliance.

Mutual dependency in a small business, or depending on a critical component, is a kind of risk that's mitigated with sharing, both first-order (knowing) and second order (knowing you'll know when you need to know).

It's the same for technology development as for partnerships or funding. If a partnership or technology is not really key to the mutual reliance, there's no big driver for sharing. If sharing would create more uncertainty than silence, that's a blocker.

I find it comes down to scheduling when to address an issue. When trouble is brewing, I try to ensure people have the skills and background they need before I bring things to a boil (or it boils over on its own).

My goal is to have people face an issue, manage it properly, and move on. After lots of battles like this, even if we lose, we still know we're in it together, we'll be ready to face things as they come, and it's be ok, even if we lose one or two.

The solution to the uncertainties of mutual reliance is experience in the trenches together -- particularly scaling focus, effort, and alignment (only) as needed.


need to know. if you tell them, make sure they know 1) it could easily not happen 2) if they tell anyone it wont happen 3) drop some fake ones to see if they spill beans


Yes be completely open with all employees.


Radical transparency is the best policy


You should ask other founders about this. I wouldn’t leave important decisions up to HN’s crowdsourced truth-seeking.


maybe you can ask them if they are really interested


Your first 10 employees are make or break. Tell them everything.


Startups are largely a financial vehicle to shift value created by employees to founders and investors


If you believe that and you're still an employee, what's holding you back from founding a company?

Moving from low-paying job A to high-paying job B not only benefits you, but causes average pay for A to increase and B to decrease, following a supply & demand curve. As more people switch from employee to founder, the value transfer and inequality you observe will decrease.


I’m working on my own startup


Most startups create zero value and go out of business.

So: startups are largely a vehicle to take money from hard working people's pensions (the LPs are often large pension funds) and put it in the pockets of employees who have created zero value.

Now that's a cynical take. But no more than the alternative view.

A positive take might be: startups are a financial vehicle to take a risk on a new business. The parties enter voluntarily, and different parties take different risks and have the opportunity for different rewards.


Corporations as a whole are a financial vehicle to shift value created by employees to executives and investors.

Being an early stage employee in a startup with significant equity means betting that your employer will eventually grow and you'll be somebody receiving the value rather than somebody creating it. That's how you reach the upper class in a capitalist economy and startups have successfully accomplished that for many founders and early stage employees.


> I'm the founder of a small 7 person startup in the fintech space.

If you can afford $1m/y in payroll, you're not small :)

> Should I share info on upcoming behind-the-scenes partnerships, etc with employees to pump them up? Or is giving too much information counterproductive/risky if an employee leaves?

The kind of person who needs "full transparency" that these Internet randos are advocating isn't going to be working very hard. You can't afford to blow $1m/y on people who use Twitter. That said, don't conflate "full transparency" with having meaningful direction and vision, and rising above the fray of agile development.




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