Yeah, this one was the one that made me buy her book. Huberman is a little much for me, but he does a great interview with her. He leaves a huge topic out -- wanted to examine his own workaholism -- but she's terrific.
The podcast of Joe Rogan, episode #1708. Interesting interview, he finds some holes in her theory that she is not able to answer or can't explain. I was very excited with the book before listening, but after it I was kind of disappointed with the book.
