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Is there a list of cars which don't have remote data collection?

Everything made before this technology existed?




I should have been more explicit: I meant modern cars that don't have this "feature".


Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles prior to 2016 used Sprint's CDMA network. Sprint's CDMA network is now shutdown, so they can no longer send any data back but the vehicles still function fine.


That is an interesting way to find more recent vehicles - find the ones who are "smart" but whose "supporting networks" have already died without rendering the vehicle non-functional. Thank you for the perspective.

Of course this does nothing on the security side - the fact that the vehicle is still somewhat accessible from the outside makes it less secure. But not having to worry about privacy at least is nice.


Is there a list of cars which don't have remote data collection?

Here it is:

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Unfortunately to the best of my knowledge I am not joking. This is one of the big reasons why I haven't bought a new car with modern automation and connectivity for a long time.

I think they will be unreliable.

I think they will be insecure.

I think they will be privacy-invasive.

I think the technology at the original time of sale will age quickly and manufacturers will abuse that to extract more money from current owners or any potential new owners who might buy the vehicle from them.

I think the technology will allow for artificial limitations on vehicles' physical capabilities and encourage manufacturers to make pay-to-play style upgrades and rental models the industry standard.

And I think there is a non-trivial risk that eventually someone will successfully exploit a remote vulnerability on a popular model and gain enough physical control over a large number of vehicles simultaneously to cause injury or even loss of life on a massive scale.

Absolutely nothing I have seen about the auto industry, the people who lead it, or the people who regulate it would undermine any of those claims and apart from the last one there seems to be plenty of evidence that they are already starting to happen.




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