On: Tor is fighting and beating Russian censorship

[moffkalast]

American yes, Chinese no.

[WaitWaitWha → moffkalast]

If you are stating that AWS is required to provide all data flowing in and out of datacenters to the USA Government, but not the Chinese government, then you are 100% wrong.

This is why Chinese regions have to replicate nearly all services in their own regions. No intermingling with other regions.

[trasz → WaitWaitWha]

The difference here is that American companies are forced to cooperate with their government with any data, it doesn’t matter where that data is located. That’s why China decided they want their own infrastructure, and other governments, like EU, are taking similar steps.

[HyperSane → WaitWaitWha]

It is also why Chinese AWS regions don't have KMS.

[metadat → moffkalast]

And even then, only with a warrant.

[trasz → metadat]

Not true - a secret kangaroo “FISA court” can arbitrarily force them to do anything and there’s no rea oversight thanks to gag orders.

[nazka → moffkalast]

Wait so does it mean that technically right the internet of China is more open than Russia?

[anticensor → nazka]

Great Firewall has a protocol and destination whitelisting, so no.

[viraptor → moffkalast]

Depends on the region. us-east-1 - us. cn-north-1 - both.