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> the US president is going to dictators begging for oil, hat in hand.

A big advantage of EVs is that presidents of the future shouldn't need to beg for oil as much, as road transportation energy supply market would be largely domestic.

But we clearly aren't there yet.




I feel like a broken record at this point, but even if a large part of passenger cars move to electric, industrialized countries still consume incredible amounts of fuel for: all planes, ships, trucks, freight trains, plastics, most fertilizers, heating, electricity production, road building etc


Ok? What does that have to do with EVs? Those are all different problems to solve. You can’t say we shouldn’t partially focus on fixing a problem because it doesn’t fix every single problem we have.


EVs lower dependence on oil, but we'll have to keep begging Saudi Arabia and many similar countries, which was the mistaken assumption of the comment I am responding to


There are emerging/existing solutions for many of these use cases

> planes

Sustainable aviation fuel, synfuels

> trucks,

Hydrogen fuel cells

freight trains,

Batteries, renewable diesel, synfuels

> heating,

Heat pumps

> electricity production

Outside of some remote islands petroleum is hardly used for electricity production.


Trains are electric in Europe for 50 years now.


Freight rail, not passenger




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