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what the country has to do with any of that?

is rust an american clone of pony?




The phrase "X is a Russian clone of Y" means someone in Russia made a clone of Y called X. It has everything to do with the country.

So yes, saying "Rust is an American clone of Pony" would be equally valid, if the assertion is that Rust is a clone of Pony, and if the people who made Rust were in America at the time.

What you should be annoyed by is not the "Russian" part but the "clone" part.


The "[Country] clone of [technology]" only really works if said technology is cloned by or for the state. If a Russian copies some code of an American, it's not a Russian clone of American code, it's just a guy copying another guy.


>The "[Country] clone of [technology]" only really works if said technology is cloned by or for the state.

No it does not. It gets used for technology created by companies as well.

Random first-page-of-Google results for "American clone of":

>An all-American clone of an app like TikTok is little better than the Chinese version imo.

>Production cost of a hypothetical American clone of basic ETA [...] if an American company wants to make a genuine fully American-made automatic watch, it's certainly possible for them to make a clone ETA

>An American Clone of the GPS-PHONE found!

>What is the value of a nasa entertainment computer system ( nes clone) [...] From what I know it’s some kind of american clone of the Nintendo Nes Console.


> Random first-page-of-Google results for "American clone of":

Weird, when you search for a phrase on google you get results filled with that phrase!


> The "[Country] clone of [technology]" only really works if said technology is cloned by or for the state.

This is your claim, which doesn't seem to apply when the results, IE actual usages of the term, do not have to do anything with state effort or funding.

Of course they searched for that term. Usually you search for things you are looking for, unless I'm missing something.


I don't expect to google "kittens" to be able to learn how "American clone of" is generally used. Do you?


There is no such thing as "American" code. Code is universal, America and code are orthogonal concepts.


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It's better to be direct and share concerns about the fact that it is a Russian company, just like you did, instead of the passive-racism, wich only encourages naive questions like mine, wich i don't think was his goal


I don't see any reason to assume anyone in this thread was being racist.


To a degree, sorta?

I mean, we have examples in history like Porsche making the worlds worst tank for the Nazis (transmission fell out).

Lamborghini “hiring” People to avoid going to war.

Manhattan project.

There is precedence for morality in engineering.

There are counter examples, as well.




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