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I already have, and I'm considering trying it out with my own cat at some point. Cats are way more intelligent than people give them credit for, I agree. But I think you can get very far without the ability to turn the mind's eye inward, and I don't think it's controversial to state that cats don't have a great deal of self-awareness and metacognitive ability.

Neosocial insects like ants are amazing indeed. I often wonder what kind of "mind" an anthill has. Hurts just to think about it.

And, to quote Oliver Sachs: "I'm not sure about octopuses..."




A way to make it stop hurting to think about, replaced instead by transcendental beauty, is to abstract pheromones to outcome utility backward induction and the following of pheromones to a single worker being a monte carlo tree search rollout with the pheromones as a guide: they play a mixed strategy proportional to the pheromones. The fading of pheromones becomes something like a weighted moving average. Strong parallels with game theory and reinforcement learning algorithms start to emerge. This model is wrong, but the Earth is also not a perfect sphere.

I find it very fun to think about and have been called wierd for taking about ants before with childlike excitement.

The AntsCanada channel is fun for watching ecosystems interact with each other. So fascinating. :)


> And, to quote Oliver Sachs: "I'm not sure about octopuses..."

I thought this quote was about the octopus that correctly predicted the outcome of games in a FIFA world cup. But seems it was something else?


Oliver said this during a roundtable discussion on metaphysics with Daniel Dennet, Steve Gould, Rupert Sheldrake, Freeman Dyson, and Stephen Toulmin from 1993.

It's a fascinating discussion with a lot of my favourite mid-late 20th century thinkers. It's up on youtube, lookup any of the names involved with "roundtable discussion". It's over 3 hours long though.

Anyway, Oliver was talking about what kind of mind he imagined various animals having. And that was most of what he had to say on octopuses.

It's a bit of a sad watch too because all the participants except Dennet and Sheldrake are dead now.


...predicted? Or CAUSED???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu





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