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> Furthermore, while yes— the energy usage of cryptocurrency is a problem, and a damn near inherent problem at that— it seems to me like it’s such a minor drawback comparatively speaking to the other evils in the world. 14 trees burn in the Amazon Rainforest every second. A kid dies in Africa from starvation or malaria every 15 seconds. Oil companies cover up their emissions and pay for favourable regulations that allow them to continue to pollute at industrial scale with little to no pushback.

Yes. PoW's energy issues is indeed a problem in which efficient alternatives like PoS, Hashgraphs and Byzantine Fault Tolerant systems, already exist if not for years. We can use a similar case with electric cars as an alternative to petrol and diesel ones. The same is true here.

> I am no tinfoil hat wearing cryptobro, don’t get me wrong, but considering how little pollution cryptocurrency produces comparatively speaking to $insert_megacorp_here, and how weak of a logical counterpoint that seems to be against the inherent positives of cryptocurrency, it seems to me like this argument is one that is almost wholeheartedly emotional in nature and one where I wouldn’t be surprised if the roots of it were astroturfed by a select few who did not want to see crypto succeed.

Totally correct. I have seen the same anti-crypto folks not disclosing their associations or competing interests and deleting their history off the internet [0], where they are actively dedicating everyday to 'stop crypto' or complaining about the environment and tarring all of them with the same brush. Their logic is simply:

   We should stop everyone from driving all cars and vehicles because there are more petrol / diesel vehicles than electric cars to offset the CO2 that these petrol / diesel cars are emitting into the atmosphere.
See how not only that is impractical, but it makes absolutely no sense?

On top of that, the tech bros don't want to complain about the deep learning systems (DLS) used for training purposes and mass surveillance which is no better or no efficient than PoW cryptocurrencies burning the planet as well. The difference is, these DLS have no efficient alternative for re-training or re-learning on new data since 2012 and always requires tons of data centres to achieve this in a shorter space of time.

The fact is, 13+ years since Bitcoin, we have working and efficient alternatives to it. 10+ years in with deep learning and there are no efficient ways to train large amounts of data without causing data centres to catch fire. I'm lead to believe that the environment reaction against cryptocurrencies today is one that is not only emotional, but an extreme response boosted by the ones that have a vested interest to laughably attempt to 'destroy all of them'. [0]

> Am I the only one that thinks this way?

No. Just avoid the extreme positions that either pro-crypto folks or anti-crypto folks set themselves in.

[0] https://medium.com/@johny.codes/private-blockchains-even-wor...




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